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 Author: Gaston.La.Brick View Messages Posted By Gaston.La.Brick
 Posted: Apr 29, 2024 06:03
 Subject: Re: We should be able to get rid of some users
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Gaston.La.Brick (1842)

Location:  Belgium
Member Since Contact Type Status
Nov 12, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: The Rolling Bricks
For a seller, the order is fulfilled when the buyer receives ALL items ordered.
It's the seller his obligation to make sure the buyer receives the complete
order.
If the seller fails to do so, a simple refund of the missing items is not sufficient
as the buyer needs to put time in searching a new store to purchase from AND
to pay shipping costs again.

The seller can offer:

A) The buyer returns the full order, with a full refund (including original shipping
costs AND including the return shipping costs, since it was a seller's problem).
Seems expensive for the seller, but it's the seller's fault to begin
with.

B) Refund missing items and reasonable part of the original shipping costs. Or
completely. So the buyer isn't forced to pay shipping costs at another store
from his own pocket.

C) Make sure the buyer receives the items. If you (the seller) doens't have
it in stock, you can place the order yourself at another store, and re-ship (or
just choose a dropshipping method).

I know all options will eat (part of) your profit, but it was your error to begin
with. The buyer can't be held accountable for the mistakes a seller made.
So for a seller you can only sigh, take the cost and learn to get better and
order fulfilling to spot missing items.

The solution you offered to simply refund the actual costs of the missing items,
without even reaching out to the buyer first to discuss options, is not a good
one. I usually go for option C) because I find it my obligation as a seller to
make sure I fully fulfill the order without extra work for my customer. All efforts
and costs to rectify a problem, should come from the seller.

I understand BrickLink used to have more of a "kindred spirits" without
a true enforced "buyer-seller relationship with commercial and legal obligations".
But things have evolved over time, as more and more people found their way to
BrickLink. As a result, the commercial and legal obligations become more and
more important, so it's important for sellers to be aware of these obligations
and act correctly to follow these obligations.

Lastly, I don't think it really professional to post this issue here in the
thread and mention the related user. It might even be considered a privacy violation
to do so? I think it is. But in any case, as a seller, stay professional. This
isn't really a professional action.

You might continue by stoplisting my account as well based on the fact you will
probably not like this reply. It's just how I think about this situation
and give you some other point of view you might consider.

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View Thread We should be able to get rid of some users - Shintaku (3796)
Hello, I'm here since 2007, it makes 17 happy years on bricklink for me and it's a site I use daily. I want to say that I also wrote several LEGO books and dedicated [...]
(1 month ago, Apr 29, 2024, to Help)

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View Thread Re: We should be able to get rid of some users - coevorden01 (536)
[...] fully agree you. i see it like, sometimes you win sometimes you loose. but always keep the customer happy
(1 month ago, Apr 29, 2024, to Help)
View Thread Re: We should be able to get rid of some users - Shintaku (3796)
[...] I don't want to be nitpicky or fussy, but your answer clearly shows that you have your point of view to enforce over mine and you didn't even read completely [...]
(1 month ago, Apr 29, 2024, to Help)
View Thread Re: We should be able to get rid of some users - randyf (442)
[...] Wonderful post. 👍 This is a shining example of how a seller should respond in a situation like this.
(1 month ago, Apr 29, 2024, to Help)
View Thread Re: We should be able to get rid of some users - SezaR (1398)
[...] Well said +1 I already gave up to share my opinion with this seller. It looks like he thinks he is 100% right and nobody should object that. (URL)
(1 month ago, Apr 29, 2024, to Help)

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