  
| Author: | Teup  | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2017 08:39 | | Subject: | Re: Offsite payment no longer possible?? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, nectara writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, nectara writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
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| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
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and basically, PayPal is something for internet nerds. That is simply a reality.
Limiting Bricklink to PayPal is limiting it to internet nerds and lose a massive
market..
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Your huge market is almost NON in other country's
From 1300 orders in my store only 3 where payed by IBAN
Saying that PayPal is for nerds...
,,This payment volume was generated through the 1.73 billion transactions which
PayPal processed during that quarter. In 2016, the payment provider's annual
payment volume amounted to 354 billion U.S. dollars.,,
mean the nerds one pay half of the volume of your country in one year
,,The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Netherlands was worth 770.85 billion US
dollars in 2016.,,
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As MarieA put it, this is not about opinions, arguments, preferences. I don't
like this kind of d*measuring contest but anyway, UK and NL are not that far
apart in size on Bricklink.
In the NL and many other countries PayPal is limited to a handful of internet
nerds, such as me. This is simply a fact that does not change depending on what
numbers you throw at it. These numbers are just total sums and say nothing about
distribution. The vast, vast majority of people here who buy online either don't
have it, don't know how it works, or have never even heard of the name.
You may not like it, but this is simply a reality. PayPal-only would mean virtually
eliminating a portion of Bricklink turnover that is really significant, bigger
than the UK portion.
Even if you would explain to the European (and perhaps Australian) consumer how
PayPal is really the bees knees, they will not understand why they should pay
money for a transaction. It's an anachronism to them.
These are just realities, I'm not talking about what payment method is best.
If the entire world suddenly decided to pay by doing a silly dance, I will happily
do silly dances. I don't care how, I just want to be able to pay my bills
and not be cut off from my customers.. they want IBAN, so I want IBAN.
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Don't understand me wrong I agree with you but bank transfers are so yesterday
and without any protection
I do offer IBAN and Stripe but I don't like them I prefer to pay PayPal fee
but to be protected
None of the payments platforms offer protection like PayPal so be sure PayPal
will be bigger and bigger...
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-For clarification: this is the realm of opinions and is therefore off the topic
of the suggestion  -
Actually, I don't see PayPal replacing bank transfers at all, not here. I
cannot imagine my mother signing up to PayPal and understand how that all works.
Bank transfers are probably tedious if you're in a country where that system
has not evolved to a comfortable point, but here there is an interface for them
that every single web store uses and everyone knows how to use it. You just pay
by clicking a button, the only extra trouble is getting a code and entering another
code, but this takes about 10 seconds and it is protection. PayPal does not have
this protection; everyone who has your credentials has access to your money.
Also, PayPal opens the door to fiscal scamming as it complicates the government's
efforts to keep track of how much money everyone has (though PayPal does have
some level of protection on this, but probably not 100% transparent like banks).
You are right PayPal offers a different type of protection, it's not as safe
when it comes to theft from an account, but it is safer against scamming. But
in my opinion, this is not the type of protection I need. I believe that this
comes down to human decency and does not need to be regulated. If there was a
service to escort me safely down the street for a small fee, I also wouldn't
like that. Public surveillance by camera is also very limited by law here. But
if we have this discucssion it would be endless, because all points of view have
good arguments. It's just a personal or cultural preference. The protection
PayPal offers and the protection IBAN offers are different from one another,
people can have different preferences according to their philosophy.
In short I don't believe there is a way to predict which payment method will
"win" (if any) based on their technical specs. People use what they use, and
we'll just have to wait and see how that evolves..
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