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 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 20, 2017 17:10
 Subject: Re: Offsite payment no longer possible??
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Teup (6615)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
Member Since Contact Type Status
May 6, 2004 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: BLOKJESKONING
In Suggestions, nectara writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In another thread someone brought this to my attention:

Offsite Payment - No longer available for new users as of June 8, 2017.
To cover various payment options, BrickLink also provides Offsite Payment Methods.
Please note that BrickLink cannot provide any transaction related support for
the Offsite Payment Methods listed below. All responsibility for Offsite Payments
is solely upon buyer and seller.


I'm lost for words. Does Bricklink really want to kill the European market
or something? In my real life I don't even know anyone with PayPal (or a
Credit card). In the NL €20,000,000,000 is spent in webshops per year, and almost
all of these transactions are bank transfers. Almost no-one that I know will
consider PayPal, certainly not since it costs money while bank tranfers are free.

IBAN has really become simple in use; Transactions are free, fast, and bank account
numbers have been standardised to IBAN recently. Interfaces for bank transfers
(such as iDeal in the NL) are thriving more than ever and are the undisputed
standard.

And now Bricklink is moving in the opposite direction.

They will lose the Dutch market, which is the 4th largest country on the platform
in terms of store count. Bricklink always seemed a bit America First but this
decision right here really changes my opinion of Bricklink. I personally will
survive since it doesn't affect existing stores and I will move more of my
business over to BO which does support bank transfers. But they will certainly
scare away lots of potential customers here, and for new sellers this is crazy
unfair. This is either a huge mistake or Bricklink just isn't interested
in the European market..

Please support my suggestion to re-enable IBAN/Bank transfer, also if you don't
use it. For an accessable and thriving site that benefits all of us, and a site
that is fair to everyone.. it's really in all of our interest if you want
Bricklink to be #1..


People are not trustworthy and with IBAN transaction your protection is null
nada zero nulua нула nulový nul tyhjä μηδενικό nulo

Well, that may be so, but in my 10 years of selling I have frequently sent out
orders even before buyers submitted their payments, and even told buyers that
I do this, and not once anyone "stole" anything from me. The only reason I still
check payments is to be able to contribute to Bricklink with accurate feedback
(wouldn't be good to post positive if they didn't pay) but personally
I would prefer to just take samples, instead of verifying everyone. In supermarkets
here it's the same, you can just walk out without paying if you want, but
once in a while an employee comes to check if you're paying properly.

Anyway, it's an interesting discussion yes, but just to be clear: whatever
IBAN pros and cons we can think of and whatever our opinion about it is, I'm
just bringing to everyone's attention that this decision is going to cause
Bricklink to lose a great deal of European market. In the NL (and more countries
in Europe, and as I now learned, Australia too) people strongly prefer IBAN,
and basically, PayPal is something for internet nerds. That is simply a reality.
Limiting Bricklink to PayPal is limiting it to internet nerds and lose a massive
market..

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View Thread Re: Offsite payment no longer possible?? - nectara (6580)
[...] People are not trustworthy and with IBAN transaction your protection is null nada zero nulua нула nulový nul tyhjä μηδενικό nulo
(83 months ago, Aug 20, 2017, to Suggestions)

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View Thread Re: Offsite payment no longer possible?? - nectara (6580)
[...] Your huge market is almost NON in other country's From 1300 orders in my store only 3 where payed by IBAN Saying that PayPal is for nerds... ,,This payment volume [...]
(83 months ago, Aug 21, 2017, to Suggestions)

32 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 19, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 2 - Baarlo_Bricks (3445) 83 months ago Aug 19, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 3 - kaat (8760) 83 months ago Aug 19, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 4 - peterab (526) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 5 - Volt_Bricks (95) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 6 - steekstra (4360) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 7 - elias3 (4600) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 8 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 9 - steekstra (4360) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 10 « - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 11 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 12 - bb414973 (189) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 13 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 14 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 15 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 16 - tEoS (5297) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 17 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 18 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 19 - WoutR (922) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 20 - tEoS (5297) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 21 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 22 - tEoS (5297) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 23 - enig (6369) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 24 - Brickwilbo (1534) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 25 - yorbrick (1185) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 26 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 27 - Grego (3899) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 28 - Brickwilbo (1534) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 29 - Admin_Jaclyn (27) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 30 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 31 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 32 - Brickwilbo (1534) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions

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