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 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 20, 2017 17:58
 Subject: Re: Offsite payment no longer possible??
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WoutR (922)

Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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Mar 8, 2011 Contact Member Buyer
Buying Privileges - OK
In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Voted no.

In fairness for security of buyers, I would only vote yes if sellers were required
to offer a payment option that allowed recourse at no penalty (fees, etc).

Over the years I have read many forum messages about buyers losing money due
to using IBAN (often in the hundreds of $, euro). Bank transfers don't seem
to be in the spirit of fair e-commerce between individuals. Registered businesses
may be a different story.

Well, you have arguments against IBAN, and maybe you have a point. But I hope
you do realise that voting no is voting for Bricklink to focus on America and
put other sellers out of business.
Even if other people would only be willing to deliver money by horse and carriage
and you could think of 83453946 arguments against that, excluding that payment
option is excluding those people.

You're saying bank transfers are not in the spirit of fair e-commerce, but
here e-commerce is absolutely huge to the point that entire brick-and-mortar
shopping centers go empty, and almost all of that goes through bank transfers.
Everybody uses it, daily, all ages and walks of life. It is rare for people to
pay in another way. Your idea of what e-commerce should be has good arguments,
but it is not necessarily what e-commerce should be for all people.

And just to be clear: it's not just registered businesses I'm talking
about. Dutch equivalents of eBay and Craigslist, where private indivuals deal
with each other, are 100% bank transfer based.

If a Dutch person will sign up here and find that this way of paying is not supported,
they will most likely leave. That will be a disaster for the Dutch market but
also affect the American part, since from what I have seen it is very common
for people to sign up here, use the payment method they are familiar with (Bricklink
is already very overwhelming when you first sign up) and then make the step to
buying overseas and looking into something like PayPal. That's what I did,
too. If there was no way to pay by bank transfer, I would never have signed up
here.

I signed up for PayPal when I made my first BrickLink purchase in the USA.
I would not have signed up for BrickLink if I had to sign up for an unusual payment
system at the same time (and PayPal really is uncommon here).

In my personal opinion, PayPal still basically feels like a solution for countries
that do not have a decent banking system

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View Thread Re: Offsite payment no longer possible?? - Teup (6615)
[...] And just to be clear: it's not just registered businesses I'm talking about. Dutch equivalents of eBay and Craigslist, where private indivuals deal with each [...]
(83 months ago, Aug 20, 2017, to Suggestions)

32 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 19, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 2 - Baarlo_Bricks (3445) 83 months ago Aug 19, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 3 - kaat (8761) 83 months ago Aug 19, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 4 - peterab (526) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 5 - Volt_Bricks (95) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 6 - steekstra (4360) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 7 - elias3 (4600) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 8 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 9 - steekstra (4360) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 10 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 11 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 12 - bb414973 (189) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 13 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 14 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 15 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 16 - tEoS (5297) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 17 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 18 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 19 « - WoutR (922) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 20 - tEoS (5297) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 21 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 22 - tEoS (5297) 83 months ago Aug 20, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 23 - enig (6369) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 24 - Brickwilbo (1534) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 25 - yorbrick (1185) 83 months ago Aug 21, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 26 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 27 - Grego (3899) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 28 - Brickwilbo (1534) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 29 - Admin_Jaclyn (27) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 30 - Teup (6615) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 31 - nectara (6580) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 32 - Brickwilbo (1534) 83 months ago Aug 22, 2017 to Suggestions

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