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 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Jun 17, 2013 08:08
 Subject: Re: Thoughts on instant checkout & postage...
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enig (6369)

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Alright time to chip in.

First of all - I like seeing someone devoting such a big amount of time for something.
Thank you G.

secondly, and I dont want to put you down, but let me say that I think it's
not worth your time. I am just being frank, so please excuse me for that.

However. My own thoughts..

To begin with - I doubt I would ever use such a system. Not because my postal
service has complicated restrictions. In fact, it is actually one of the simplest
(and cheapest) ones here on BL. I could probably ship a fully built 10190 as
a "letter" for 3.5 EUR anywhere within EU.

I have other reasons.

But if to look at it as a concept..

Many pros and cons, which are already being discussed. So not worth repeating
them I guess.

#1 BL is already complicated enough, and a new user can break an arm and a leg
just by trying to use it for the first time. Yet one more additional option (pay
now or request an invoice) would just add on to it. Especially for the ones who
barely understand English, so it would be yet one more reason for them to go
'f**k this I quit'

For us who are used to BL it does not look like that, but try and remember your
first time. How long did it really take you to learn 100% of all BL functions?
Heck, I am here for more than a year and I still dont know everything.

And the point is.. WE SHOULD NOT EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT THIS. IF we are,
then the system is faulty. But we already know that dont we

#2 if such an option ever gets implemented, it should be extremely user-friendly.
Every non-English speaking user should understand intuitively what means "pay
now" and "request an invoice".

And by that I mean - he should understand that "pay now" likely means:
a) over-paying for postage a little
b) OR that if there is something within his order which will require a different
shipping rate, he may be required to make another payment.

but then we get into that territory where, for example, to make an additional
1.5 EUR payment (for shipping) also means additional ~0.4 EUR in PayPal fees.
Bad.

If order grand total is somewhere at 25 EUR - 5 EUR shipping, 1 EUR payment fees,
10 EUR "own cost of parts", you are left with 9 EUR of actual profit on the parts.
20% taxes to your government and smilar leaves you with 7.2 EUR actual profit.
And 1.5 EUR would mean 21% decrease in profits. BL is a big game of margins,
and every single one counts if you're taking the game seriously.

Now all this being said, everyone who says that it is too complicated and would
never work is a short-sighted liar. You can code everything. They're
landing machines in Mars for gods sake.

The issue is not in the complexity if it, but in the equation of 'cost
to do it'
vs 'profit'.

To create and maintain a flawless system would be costly, because ,due
to the nature of LEGO parts, it is a never-ending work with catalog. Who benefits
from it? Not the owner of BL (one can argue on that though).

To say "oh you can mark certain parts and then not allow instant checkout if
they're in a shopping cart" is easy. But then what's the point of having
such a system if it does not really work and only adds to an already complex
environment.

Once again - it is possible to have a truly working system but I am not sure
if it would not mean an increase in BL fees. I would hate to see that going up
for something that I would not use anyways.

But then.. at first people were getting killed for trying to prove that earth
is not flat and not the center of the universe too..

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View Thread Thoughts on instant checkout & postage... - bb314137 (859)
I was the kind of person that never wanted instant checkout to be implemented here in BL. I thought it would bring problems, overpaying or underpaying, and also would stop a way [...]
(134 months ago, Jun 16, 2013, to Suggestions)

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View Thread Re: Thoughts on instant checkout & postage... - bb314137 (859)
[...] I love getting different opinions, and people to convince me about something that I wasn't. And it kills time, that's for sure. ;-) [...] This is quite a [...]
(134 months ago, Jun 17, 2013, to Suggestions)

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 Msg 1 - bb314137 (859) 134 months ago Jun 16, 2013 to Suggestions
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