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 Posted: Apr 8, 2024 00:31
 Subject: Re: Question about Undetermined as alternates
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  While I was working on cleaning up part
 
Part No: 4532  Name: Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4532 Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Container {Light Bluish Gray}
I came across multiple sets such as
 
Set No: 71006  Name: The Simpsons House
* 
71006-1 (Inv) The Simpsons House
2504 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: The Simpsons
where they have the undetermined
as a normal entry and then have a solid/hollow version as an alternate in the
set.

for example set
 
Set No: 71006  Name: The Simpsons House
* 
71006-1 (Inv) The Simpsons House
2504 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: The Simpsons
has
 
Part No: 4532  Name: Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4532 Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Container {Orange}
as a regular part with match ID 10

then has
 
Part No: 4532a  Name: Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 - Solid Studs
* 
4532a Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 - Solid Studs
Parts: Container {Orange}
as an alternate with match ID 10

but when watching a new build of the set it has
 
Part No: 4532b  Name: Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 - Hollow Studs
* 
4532b Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 - Hollow Studs
Parts: Container {Orange}

then there are sets like
 
Set No: 3179  Name: Repair Truck
* 
3179-1 (Inv) Repair Truck
114 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2010
Sets: Town: City: Traffic
where
 
Part No: 4532a  Name: Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 - Solid Studs
* 
4532a Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 - Solid Studs
Parts: Container {Light Bluish Gray}
with match ID 3 in the main section and
 
Part No: 4532  Name: Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 (Undetermined Type)
* 
4532 Container, Cupboard 2 x 3 x 2 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Container {Light Bluish Gray}
with match ID 3 is listed as an alternate.

so I'm a little confused as to how to handle these ones. when alternates
are the main part in the inventory and the a or b is in the alternates or when
a or b is in the main inventory and the undetermined version is listed as an
alternate is this something that happened when the part was separated? I dont
really know what to do with these
Thanks!
-Jason

Before the determined entry 4532b was added to the catalog, there were only the
determined entry 4532a (called "with solid studs" ) and the entry 4532
which did not specify the version in the name, but was also not called undermined.
Since the images under 4532 showed hollow studs and the only other 4532* entry
in the catalog was 4532a with solid studs, 4532 was often considered the hollow
studs version. So if you have an inventory with 4532a and 4532, it usually means
that both versions were found in the set. However, this should still be checked
before 4532 can be replaced with 4532b.

As a start, always check the change log.
For 3179 you can see that 4532 was added as an alternate.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=3179-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
So the set was originally inventoried with 4532a (solid studs) in 2009, and then
someone found the variant with hollow studs in the set in 2012. In such a case
we can be sure that 4532 stands for 4532b (because 4532a was already in the inventory)
and no further proof is needed to replace 4532 with 4532b.

For 71006, someone found 4532a while the set was inventoried with 4532.
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=189449
(You can see in the forum message that 4532 was just called "Container, Cupboard
2 x 3 x 2" at the time.)
It is likely that the inventory submitter had the version with hollow studs in
the set, because otherwise they probably would have used the 4532a entry, but
since 4532 was not called "with hollow studs", this must now be checked
again with an original set (Youtube, Brickshelf, ...) before 4532 can be replaced
with 4532b.

Hope that makes sense?

I’m going to see the number “4532” in my dreams
But I think I get the gist of it, but I’ll read it a few more times in the morning
when I get back to work
Thankyou for clarifying!

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View Thread Re: Question about Undetermined as alternates - Turez (43)
[...] Before the determined entry 4532b was added to the catalog, there were only the determined entry 4532a (called "with solid studs" ) and the entry 4532 [...]
(2 months ago, Apr 7, 2024, to Catalog)

5 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - Nubs_Select (3820) 2 months ago Apr 6, 2024 to Catalog
 Msg 2 - Turez (43) 2 months ago Apr 7, 2024 to Catalog
 Msg 3 « - Nubs_Select (3820) 2 months ago Apr 8, 2024 to Catalog
 Msg 4 - axaday (7304) 2 months ago Apr 7, 2024 to Catalog
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