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 Author: _Nadiki_ View Messages Posted By _Nadiki_
 Posted: Jan 25, 2024 18:03
 Subject: Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants
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Well since a lot of BrickLink users are talking about this I feel I should throw
my two cents in as well. I primarily use BrickLink for buying and research and
consider the catalogue to be invaluable.

I'll go point by point over each group planned to be consolidated, state
what I understand to be happening based on your statements/community interpretation/etc
and give my thoughts on it.

1. Frosted Bricks
I'm guessing these are being merged with regular bricks with bottom tubes.
This might be a good change, bricks with tubes and bricks without (newer transparent
bricks) already have separate entries and frosted pieces have always been a variant
thing that causes confusion. However if this is something that people are really
passionate about, maybe a "frosted transparent clear" color could be
added for these parts.

2. Smooth Slopes
As I understand it, smooth slopes will be merged with their rough counterparts.
This is a bad merging, as smooth slopes are completely different aesthetically
and are typically more rare. Consolidating them with rough slopes would make
it much harder for buyers to search for seller listings that sell specifically
smooth slopes and be an annoyance to buyers that might receive a mix of smooth
and rough slopes.

3. Connections Between Studs
I'm not entirely sure which way these parts are being merged. If 3747b and
2752 are being merged, this is okay. However merging 3747b and 3747a is not a
good idea because they have different angles due to the thickness of the top
ridge being different. (3747a has a thicker ridge and a shallower slope than
both the other variants.) I don't know what the other 2 entries being affected
are, but presumably it's fine.

4. Sprue Marks
This one's really easy to understand thankfully: the chair with sprue mark
and chair without are being merged. Which is not a good merging. Many people
seek out the chairs without sprues specifically, and having to check for seller
descriptions (which they do not often provide) or hoping they get lucky with
their order is highly inconvenient.

5. Torsos with Ribs
Presumably the classic torsos without ribs are being merged with the reissues
that have them. This a very, very bad merging. Old torsos from Classic Space,
Castle, Pirates, etc. should be kept distinct from their modern reissues due
to the major difference in print quality/durability and the old torsos' extreme
value to collectors, particularly when in mint condition.

6. Inside Supports
There's a lot of entries for this one but not many parts with side supports,
so I'm guessing 1x2 axle bricks and panels with inside supports are getting
merged with their non-support counterparts. This is a good change for the axle
bricks, as there's almost no difference with the non-support version, but
this is a bad change for the panels, as they are completely different inside
due to the support jutting out. You can't make a smooth inner wall nor can
you put old stickers inside of the panels with inside supports.

7. X-Shaped Axle Holes
All bricks with x-shaped axle holes will be merged with their + shaped counterparts.
While technically interchangeable, this is not a good merging due to the clear
aesthetic differences and color exclusives.

8. Hinges with Teeth
There was some misinformation about this one, the 7 teeth and 9 teeth variants
have the same range of motion due to the special bump on the 7 tooth joint. So
functionally identical parts will be merged. Considering the number of entries
and the tiny teeth this is probably a good change honestly. However it might
be good to add a footnote to these entries that the 9 teeth variant is the older
one used up until around 2020.

9. Duplo Bricks with Bottom Tubes
It's Duplo. It's probably fine.

10. Blocked and Vented Studs
Presumably all blocked and vented variants of parts and minifigure heads will
be merged together. This is an excellent and understandable change when it comes
to the printed minifigure heads, as the catalogue was getting very bloated with
all the variants of minifigure heads and it made it extremely hard to search
the database for face prints when certain ones would show up several times.
However, this is NOT a good change when it comes to parts like the 2x2 dome piece
or blank minifigure heads. The vented studs and blocked studs look very different
aesthetically and when those studs aren't covered up they do not look good
next to each other. Differentiating these as a buyer would be awful.

11. Determined Entries for Very Common Parts
There was a lot of confusion surrounding this one, many people thought the old
and rare ungrooved parts were going to be merged with grooved parts. But instead
the "with groove" addendum is being removed from modern parts and the
"without groove" moniker will remain on its respective entries. This
is an excellent change!


Please do not disregard your users' fears simply because they are misinformed
about a few of these mergings. It's not easily apparent from the Help post
which entries are merging with what. These people are passionate about Lego and
treasure BOTH the excellent database and fantastic marketplace you provide.


If I may offer a suggestion: it would be immensely helpful to everyone if you
guys created a variant dropdown menu for parts similar to how it currently works
with color. It would streamline things so much for everyone - buyers, sellers,
and database users alike - and not lead to such extreme database bloat as Lego
creates more and more variants in the future.

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View Thread Important proposal regarding catalog variants - Admin_Russell
Hello everyone, As a platform, we have decided to take a hard look at some of the mold variants that we are currently asking you to recognize. For sellers, more variants means [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)

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View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - Admin_Russell
[...] Thanks for the detailed post!
(4 months ago, Jan 25, 2024, to Catalog)

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