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 Author: bagelboybugle View Messages Posted By bagelboybugle
 Posted: Jan 10, 2024 17:34
 Subject: Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

I'm a little out of touch with this so apologies if I've missed something.

Back in my selling days I got very frustrated with the amount of irrelevant variation
catalogued, especially when parting out sets or trying to buy parts. I fully
respect the need to find the exact variation when restoring a set or seeking
a specific aesthetic but when you're just building fire engines for your
kids you really do not care which variant you get, you just want to know where
you can buy 40 of them from the same place, even if that is 10 of a, 25 of b
and 5 of c. Perhaps where variants need to remain, undetermined from a wanted
list can calculate and aggregate if the user selects a box for "find all
variants"? that way a user can find someone who has 20 of one and 20 of the
other just by telling the system they need 40 and they don't mind which they
get.

Seats are a great example of something I would have bought more of when I was
building stuff had there been one product rather than two. There's a balance
between technical correctness (which is difficult because mold changes are often
gradual and more than one variant of a part can appear in some sets, giving significant
value to the undetermined variant being the right one to use when it is in fact
not known if a specific variant is intended at design or manufacture).

  Hello everyone,

As a platform, we have decided to take a hard look at some of the mold variants
that we are currently asking you to recognize. For sellers, more variants means
extra sorting and extra work while pulling orders, plus the issues that arise
from variant misunderstandings.

For buyers, excess variants mean that it's harder to assemble a wanted list,
find stores, and ultimately obtain the parts you are looking for.

I have put together a quick Help page to outline these proposed changes:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Notice the date on this is coming up quickly (Feb 1), so I'm not giving a
lot of time for discussion. I'm aiming for about 1 week of discussion and
then we'll give sellers 2 weeks to adjust the descriptions on affected items
if they wish to retain the distinctions.

I plan to construct a full FAQ page with answers to all your questions. This
will serve to inform users about what was done here in February 2024, and also
help point the catalog in the right direction in the future.

To get started, I'll list a few here:

1. This sounds like you're dumbing down the BrickLink catalog to make
it easier for new users. Is that what is going on?


Not really. There are many, many other variants we expect people to sort and
care about. These ones don't really seem to matter much, and some of them
(e.g., the minifigure heads) actually cause problems for the catalog that cannot
be corrected otherwise.

2. What if I really care about a certain variant that is going away? Can I
still buy and sell that variant?


Absolutely! You can add notes to your listings to make them as "determined"
as you wish. Buyers can still search within notes for extra details, or they
can simply observe them as they browse listings.

3. How do I know which exact variants will be merged? I only see one example
in each category.


Please ask in this thread and I can be very specific. Usually we are talking
about a handful of parts and the printed versions.

4. Has a merge like this ever been done before?

Yes, there was a precedent - the Headlight Brick with Slot:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1016584

It was marked for deletion a few years ago and was finally merged last August.

5. Are these the only parts up for consideration, or are there other variants
that will be merged as well?


This is all for now. Based on how well this goes, we may elect to remove other
entries later. However, we will keep all functional variants and important cosmetic
variants.

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View Thread Important proposal regarding catalog variants - Admin_Russell
Hello everyone, As a platform, we have decided to take a hard look at some of the mold variants that we are currently asking you to recognize. For sellers, more variants means [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)

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