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 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jan 9, 2024 00:38
 Subject: Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants
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hpoort (416)

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As a database engineer, this is the worst idea ever. To dumb down your core database
rather than solving it on the usage side.

As suggested many times before, why don't you allow sellers to indicate which
variants may have been mixed in a lot and allow buyers to specify which variants
they care about.



In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

As a platform, we have decided to take a hard look at some of the mold variants
that we are currently asking you to recognize. For sellers, more variants means
extra sorting and extra work while pulling orders, plus the issues that arise
from variant misunderstandings.

For buyers, excess variants mean that it's harder to assemble a wanted list,
find stores, and ultimately obtain the parts you are looking for.

I have put together a quick Help page to outline these proposed changes:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Notice the date on this is coming up quickly (Feb 1), so I'm not giving a
lot of time for discussion. I'm aiming for about 1 week of discussion and
then we'll give sellers 2 weeks to adjust the descriptions on affected items
if they wish to retain the distinctions.

I plan to construct a full FAQ page with answers to all your questions. This
will serve to inform users about what was done here in February 2024, and also
help point the catalog in the right direction in the future.

To get started, I'll list a few here:

1. This sounds like you're dumbing down the BrickLink catalog to make
it easier for new users. Is that what is going on?


Not really. There are many, many other variants we expect people to sort and
care about. These ones don't really seem to matter much, and some of them
(e.g., the minifigure heads) actually cause problems for the catalog that cannot
be corrected otherwise.

2. What if I really care about a certain variant that is going away? Can I
still buy and sell that variant?


Absolutely! You can add notes to your listings to make them as "determined"
as you wish. Buyers can still search within notes for extra details, or they
can simply observe them as they browse listings.

3. How do I know which exact variants will be merged? I only see one example
in each category.


Please ask in this thread and I can be very specific. Usually we are talking
about a handful of parts and the printed versions.

4. Has a merge like this ever been done before?

Yes, there was a precedent - the Headlight Brick with Slot:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1016584

It was marked for deletion a few years ago and was finally merged last August.

5. Are these the only parts up for consideration, or are there other variants
that will be merged as well?


This is all for now. Based on how well this goes, we may elect to remove other
entries later. However, we will keep all functional variants and important cosmetic
variants.

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View Thread Important proposal regarding catalog variants - Admin_Russell
Hello everyone, As a platform, we have decided to take a hard look at some of the mold variants that we are currently asking you to recognize. For sellers, more variants means [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)

Message Has 6 Replies:

View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - randyf (442)
[...] At our last catalog administrators meeting, I specifically brought up these points. [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - Admin_Russell
[...] That is a good proposal for the future, but that only works for things that are optional. For many variants (e.g., the major functional variants) they aren't [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - minithings4life (17117)
I totally agree with hpoort. The database needs to be kept as is, and changes made to the interface so buyers and sellers who do not care so much for some variants have a way [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - 1001bricks (52466)
[...] One of the problem as of right now is that in 30/50/70% of the cases (depending the lot), the variants sold are NOT what they say, it's just an Inventory [...]
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - Macaronis (725)
[...] AMEN... W
(5 months ago, Jan 9, 2024, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants - JosephMarinier (3)
[...] Same intuition here, and your suggestion sounds good to me. Alternatively, if it has to be as simple as possible, it could be all or nothing: through the interface, the [...]
(4 months ago, Jan 24, 2024, to Catalog)

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