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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 20, 2020 12:05
 Subject: Re: Move Variants Discovered
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StormChaser (570)

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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  I can probably provide at least 20 variations of these molded lines on the inside
of 2x4 bricks.

I looked through your Flickr photo collection and I was most impressed. I've
updated the additional note.

  As a collector of 2x4 bricks, I think that these mold details
are to small and to variable to mention in our catalog.

In another post you mention certain specifics, such as functionality or appearance,
as criteria for having separate catalog entries. The problem is that BrickLink
has no written criteria for separate catalog entries. We've just
been kinda winging it for 20 years. Here's an example of that (look at the
comparison image):

 
Part No: 19159  Name: Technic, Pin Double Triangle 1 x 3 with 2 Clips with Squared Pin Holes
* 
19159 Technic, Pin Double Triangle 1 x 3 with 2 Clips with Squared Pin Holes
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 47994  Name: Technic, Pin Double Triangle 1 x 3 with 2 Clips with Round Pin Holes
* 
47994 Technic, Pin Double Triangle 1 x 3 with 2 Clips with Round Pin Holes
Parts: Technic, Pin

How much work was put into this non-functional, non-appearance-affecting part
split by everyone involved? And this is just one part. There are more.

So what I expect to see change in 2020: the addition of written guidelines specifying
exactly how part variants are handled. The current justification for our overall
strategy with part variants is that we're serving collectors and purists
with the way we do things.

But . . . we're not. And not only are we failing them rather miserably,
but we're making buyers, sellers, contributors, and administrators go to
sometimes extraordinary lengths to serve a system that doesn't serve anyone
well. People are buying sealed sets and dismantling them to determine a single
part variant, not realizing the whole set box is probably filled with variants.

That, as I've said before, is unsustainable and irrational. I don't
claim to have a solution yet, but I am giving it thought and I always appreciate
your knowledgeable input. I'm not against part variants or having separate
entries for them, but we've been doing it wrongly for a long time.

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View Thread Re: Move Variants Discovered - WoutR (921)
[...] I can probably provide at least 20 variations of these molded lines on the inside of 2x4 bricks. As a collector of 2x4 bricks, I think that these mold details are to [...]
(50 months ago, Apr 20, 2020, to Catalog)

Message Has 2 Replies:

View Thread Re: Move Variants Discovered - SylvainLS (46)
[...] I beg to differ for these parts. The difference is appearance-affecting and is even more functional: you can’t put a bar in a square hole.
(50 months ago, Apr 20, 2020, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: Move Variants Discovered - WoutR (921)
[...] Thank you. It is a work in progress (all filler brick donations are welcome ;-)) [...] I think that there are 4 criteria 1) Functional difference. [...]
(50 months ago, Apr 20, 2020, to Catalog)

33 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 2 - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 3 - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 4 - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 5 - Dino (479) 50 months ago Apr 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 6 - bje (1577) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 7 - SylvainLS (46) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 8 - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 9 - minithings4life (17117) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 10 - bje (1577) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 11 - minithings4life (17117) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 12 - WoutR (921) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 13 - Stuart9 (1102) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 14 - WoutR (921) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 15 - Stuart9 (1102) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 16 - WoutR (921) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 17 « - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 18 - SylvainLS (46) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 19 - randyf (442) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 20 - WoutR (921) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 21 - axaday (7305) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 22 - StormChaser (570) 50 months ago Apr 20, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 23 - StormChaser (570) 49 months ago May 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 24 - SylvainLS (46) 49 months ago May 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 25 - StormChaser (570) 49 months ago May 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 26 - SylvainLS (46) 49 months ago May 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 27 - paulvdb (7159) 49 months ago May 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 28 - bje (1577) 49 months ago May 19, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 29 - StormChaser (570) 49 months ago May 28, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 30 - Jacob_9821 (15) 49 months ago May 28, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 31 - SylvainLS (46) 49 months ago May 28, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 32 - StormChaser (570) 49 months ago May 28, 2020 to Catalog
 Msg 33 - randyf (442) 49 months ago May 28, 2020 to Catalog

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