|
 |
| | | Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 15:08 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| | | USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
|
Will this page
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
be updated to reflect this new wording?
Currently it still indicates (for used incomplete sets)...
Every item for sale on BrickLink has a Condition which is assigned by the
seller.
:
Incomplete - Set is missing items. Description should state what exactly is missing.
As the seller assigns the condition, do they get to choose what the difference
between serious and very serious is?
Personally, I think rules should be precise so if an item is removed then it
is clear as to why.
So something along the lines of ...
USED: If instructions and/or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE
if this is mentioned in the notes. If any of the parts, including stickers, necessary
to build the main model and any supplementary models are missing then the listing
must be marked as incomplete. However, it must be listed as a custom item and
not an incomplete set if any of the following is true:
- It is missing more than 10% of the parts (or whatever is decided how much
can be missing)
- It is missing any of the essence of the set, including missing any of the
figures of an IP set, name tiles in architecture and similar sets, printed parts
unique to the set, etc.
Alternatively, it might be better to just remove the ability to list an incomplete
set. So if anything is missing and the set does not meet the definition of complete
(whether used complete or new complete) then it must be listed as a custom lot.
That way, there is no subjectivity when it comes to items being removed. And
probably less work for the helpdesk or whoever removes items reported.
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | Swatson217 | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 06:38 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| In Terms and Policies, yorbrick writes:
| | | | USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
|
Will this page
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
be updated to reflect this new wording?
Currently it still indicates (for used incomplete sets)...
Every item for sale on BrickLink has a Condition which is assigned by the
seller.
:
Incomplete - Set is missing items. Description should state what exactly is missing.
As the seller assigns the condition, do they get to choose what the difference
between serious and very serious is?
Personally, I think rules should be precise so if an item is removed then it
is clear as to why.
So something along the lines of ...
USED: If instructions and/or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE
if this is mentioned in the notes. If any of the parts, including stickers, necessary
to build the main model and any supplementary models are missing then the listing
must be marked as incomplete. However, it must be listed as a custom item and
not an incomplete set if any of the following is true:
- It is missing more than 10% of the parts (or whatever is decided how much
can be missing)
- It is missing any of the essence of the set, including missing any of the
figures of an IP set, name tiles in architecture and similar sets, printed parts
unique to the set, etc.
Alternatively, it might be better to just remove the ability to list an incomplete
set. So if anything is missing and the set does not meet the definition of complete
(whether used complete or new complete) then it must be listed as a custom lot.
That way, there is no subjectivity when it comes to items being removed. And
probably less work for the helpdesk or whoever removes items reported.
|
👆👆👆👆👆👆
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 06:41 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| If it were up to me, I would say Incomplete Sets must contain a detail and accurate
description of what is incomplete about it and then leave it at that. The price
guide for incomplete sets is not and never will be a useful statistic anyway.
There is no saving it. Don't even show a price guide for that.
|
|
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| In Terms and Policies, axaday writes:
| | If it were up to me, I would say Incomplete Sets must contain a detail and accurate
description of what is incomplete about it and then leave it at that. The price
guide for incomplete sets is not and never will be a useful statistic anyway.
There is no saving it. Don't even show a price guide for that.
|
Well, I still like seeing the Price Guide  but I agree that the whole point
of having an option for listing Incomplete sets is so we can, you know, list
sets that are missing pieces. Some, most, a majority, very many, a percentage...
are a whole bunch of subjective descriptors. Without well-published and easy-to-find
AND understand guidelines and no efficient method for enforcement, BrickLink
needs to let this go.
I understand their intentions for telling us to use the Custom Item listing,
but it's just not reasonable or practical.
On a personal note, I think being able to shop for sets sold without minifigs
or accessories is convenient and a good way to get parts at a relative discount.
I used to buy these listings and part them out for a decent profit.
~Jen
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| In Terms and Policies, jennnifer writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, axaday writes:
| | If it were up to me, I would say Incomplete Sets must contain a detail and accurate
description of what is incomplete about it and then leave it at that. The price
guide for incomplete sets is not and never will be a useful statistic anyway.
There is no saving it. Don't even show a price guide for that.
|
Well, I still like seeing the Price Guide but I agree that the whole point
of having an option for listing Incomplete sets is so we can, you know, list
sets that are missing pieces. Some, most, a majority, very many, a percentage...
are a whole bunch of subjective descriptors. Without well-published and easy-to-find
AND understand guidelines and no efficient method for enforcement, BrickLink
needs to let this go.
I understand their intentions for telling us to use the Custom Item listing,
but it's just not reasonable or practical.
On a personal note, I think being able to shop for sets sold without minifigs
or accessories is convenient and a good way to get parts at a relative discount.
I used to buy these listings and part them out for a decent profit.
~Jen
|
I, quite often will list incomplete sets. Not ones missing mini-figs. If the
figs are missing I part out the set. On occasion a part (or a few) are missing,
stickered part or stickers are missing. These I will list as Incomplete, detail
what is missing and put the missing parts on my WL. Sometimes they sell before
I acquire the part(s) but usually I end up completing the set.
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| In Terms and Policies, axaday writes:
| | If it were up to me, I would say Incomplete Sets must contain a detail and accurate
description of what is incomplete about it and then leave it at that. The price
guide for incomplete sets is not and never will be a useful statistic anyway.
There is no saving it. Don't even show a price guide for that.
|
It is particularly annoying if items are removed by admins for being incorrectly
listed, especially if they are not incorrectly listed. They cannot be reinstated
if removed, all the work listing what is missing is lost, and the seller has
to do that again. Hence the need for very clear guidelines. If removals become
subjective rather than objective, all that work is lost each time they decide
to remove a listed item, whether it is incorrectly removed or not.
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 08:33 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| In Terms and Policies, yorbrick writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, axaday writes:
| | If it were up to me, I would say Incomplete Sets must contain a detail and accurate
description of what is incomplete about it and then leave it at that. The price
guide for incomplete sets is not and never will be a useful statistic anyway.
There is no saving it. Don't even show a price guide for that.
|
It is particularly annoying if items are removed by admins for being incorrectly
listed, especially if they are not incorrectly listed. They cannot be reinstated
if removed, all the work listing what is missing is lost, and the seller has
to do that again. Hence the need for very clear guidelines. If removals become
subjective rather than objective, all that work is lost each time they decide
to remove a listed item, whether it is incorrectly removed or not.
|
Yes, in every case I can think of it would be better for the site to "stockroom"
a bad listing and send an explanation rather than simply delete it.
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | May 8, 2024 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
|
| In Terms and Policies, axaday writes:
| | If it were up to me, I would say Incomplete Sets must contain a detail and accurate
description of what is incomplete about it and then leave it at that. The price
guide for incomplete sets is not and never will be a useful statistic anyway.
There is no saving it. Don't even show a price guide for that.
|
The Share Wanted List function could also be enabled so that a seller could share
a wanted list of the missing pieces for the incomplete set. The buyer could then
see what's
missing and/or price it out.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1468324
|
|
|
|
|
United Kingdom, England
USA, Maryland
