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 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:28
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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Amazingly (8788)

Location:  USA, Florida
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  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:32
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yorbrick (1185)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:47
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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1001bricks (52463)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 2, 2024 15:53
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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yorbrick (1185)

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  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 16:42
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Amazingly (8788)

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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.

Thanks for your time, and the others who commented.
I'm going to open the rest of the series 26 cases to see if I get one with
a yellow leg like the one posted this morning
 Author: Nicolasamico37 View Messages Posted By Nicolasamico37
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:15
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Nicolasamico37 (1071)

Location:  France, Centre-Val de Loire
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

Hi,

Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

Because I prefer to know before to pay how much it could be, I asked and had
this reply:
"These are bricklink, paypal, packaging fees, in general it is
between 1 and 2 € for small orders."

And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:17
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:20
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:38
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1001bricks (52463)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:45
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:55
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1001bricks (52463)

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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:56
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  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

Indeed!  It takes me O days here
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In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

Indeed!  It takes me O days here

Zero day? You're a living exploit!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

No no, I'm just in forum for funzies!
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least

Usually 1-2 days but what is you doing that takes 15 days 🦦…
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

Timothy Smith invented 15 years ago the BrickLink forum famous "Stamp licking
fee"
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  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...

If they have said that in bricklink messages, rather than just by email, then
report it. They should be suspended for doing that.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

This is strictly forbidden by PayPal and BrickLink - and somewhere probably by
EU Laws...
You could report this shop, or at least tell them and see if they change their
Terms?
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