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 Author: MikkoKaukonen View Messages Posted By MikkoKaukonen
 Posted: Jan 24, 2024 13:23
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 928-1
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MikkoKaukonen (8)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 928  Name: Galaxy Explorer
* 
928-1 (Inv) Galaxy Explorer
318 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Delete 1 Part 3062b Trans-Green Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud
* Delete 15 Part 3062b Trans-Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud
* Add 1 Part 3062a Trans-Green Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud
* Add 15 Part 3062a Trans-Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud

Comments from Submitter:
Instructions, pr photos and other inventories show the parts to be the solid stud versions. Incorrectly listing this widely awailable part in your inventory opens an oportunity for fraud, as sellers can substitute the rare original part, with a common part and claim a set to be "complete" defrauding the buyer
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 24, 2024 13:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 928-1
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In Inventories Requests, MikkoKaukonen writes:
  Instructions, pr photos and other inventories show the parts to be the solid stud versions.

Why are there two versions of this part on BrickLink? It is unnecessary to have
both solid stud and open stud versions of the part. These variants should be
merged into a single catalog entry for the sake of convenience.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Jan 24, 2024 13:49
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, MikkoKaukonen writes:
  Instructions, pr photos and other inventories show the parts to be the solid stud versions.

Why are there two versions of this part on BrickLink? It is unnecessary to have
both solid stud and open stud versions of the part. These variants should be
merged into a single catalog entry for the sake of convenience.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:59
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 928-1
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normann1974 (2291)

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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, MikkoKaukonen writes:
  Instructions, pr photos and other inventories show the parts to be the solid stud versions.

Why are there two versions of this part on BrickLink? It is unnecessary to have
both solid stud and open stud versions of the part. These variants should be
merged into a single catalog entry for the sake of convenience.

Are you joking? Try building
 
Set No: 6980  Name: Galaxy Commander
* 
6980-1 (Inv) Galaxy Commander
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Space: Classic Space
with the solid stud variant.

/Jan
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 24, 2024 14:52
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 928-1
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SezaR (1392)

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In Inventories Requests, MikkoKaukonen writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 928  Name: Galaxy Explorer
* 
928-1 (Inv) Galaxy Explorer
318 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Delete 1 Part 3062b Trans-Green Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud
* Delete 15 Part 3062b Trans-Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud
* Add 1 Part 3062a Trans-Green Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud
* Add 15 Part 3062a Trans-Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud

Comments from Submitter:
Instructions, pr photos and other inventories show the parts to be the solid stud versions. Incorrectly listing this widely available part in your inventory opens an opportunity for fraud, as sellers can substitute the rare original part, with a common part and claim a set to be "complete" defrauding the buyer

Having checked photos of many copies of space classic sets including 928, 924,...that
were released in 1979 and having bought many copies of these sets from first
owner, I can tell ALL copies of these sets came with round 1x1 bricks with open
stud. TLG began to produce round bricks with open stud since 1978 to replace
with the variant with solid stud. The years 1978-80 were the transition time,
because TLG wanted to first use all his stock of variant with open stud, and
then use the later variant with open stud, so all this depended on the color,
how many of which color they had in stock,...

Since the box art and instructions were designed before TLG designed and produced
the variant with open stud, they show the variant with solid stud. The other
inventories like that of peeron.com were created by Lego fans using only the
instructions and they were never checked with sealed copies of sets. I think
other websites copies their inventories from peeron.com too.

I have photos of some classic space sets in which we can see round brick with
open stud. I even own a sealed 924 inside which there is a catalog from 1979
(so the set was produced in 1979 and not 1980 or later).
If you have photos of a sealed 928 that came with solid stud version, please
share.

If you even find 15 of
 
Part No: 3062a  Name: Brick, Round  1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
* 
3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
Parts: Brick, Round {Trans-Red}
together, that is something to consider But this part is so rare.

So the inventory is correct as it is, and nobody has been committing any fraud
neither.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:58
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 928-1
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normann1974 (2291)

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In Inventories Requests, MikkoKaukonen writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 928  Name: Galaxy Explorer
* 
928-1 (Inv) Galaxy Explorer
318 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Delete 1 Part 3062b Trans-Green Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud
* Delete 15 Part 3062b Trans-Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud
* Add 1 Part 3062a Trans-Green Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud
* Add 15 Part 3062a Trans-Red Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud

Comments from Submitter:
Instructions, pr photos and other inventories show the parts to be the solid stud versions. Incorrectly listing this widely awailable part in your inventory opens an oportunity for fraud, as sellers can substitute the rare original part, with a common part and claim a set to be "complete" defrauding the buyer

Instructions and PR photos are not a valid source of the actual contents of sets.

As explained elsewhere in this thread, we need proof from a sealed set to accept
this alternate part in the inventory, and it will only be as an alternate because
this set definitely has come with open stud parts. I own the set myself and never
had a solid stud version of this part in transparent colors in my childhood collection.

So for now, this request will be rejected.

/Jan