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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS  | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 16:28 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
I vote for plural… unless there’s only one chevron in the pattern 
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 16:39 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
I vote for plural… unless there’s only one chevron in the pattern
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If that is happening ...
Using an asterisk is much quicker.
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| | | | | Author: | BricksThatStick | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 16:44 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
Please use the catalog requests topic for things that can't be achieved through
the normal forms.
You are welcome to discuss it here in the forum first and then submit change
requests if a concensus is reached.
Thanks 
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| | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 16:46 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Please use the catalog requests topic for things that can't be achieved through
the normal forms.
You are welcome to discuss it here in the forum first and then submit change
requests if a concensus is reached.
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Sorry, this was supposed to go in the "Catalog requests" forum but apparently
I clicked the wrong forum. Admin: Please move it to the correct forum.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 17:06 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | Please use the catalog requests topic for things that can't be achieved through
the normal forms.
You are welcome to discuss it here in the forum first and then submit change
requests if a concensus is reached.
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Sorry, this was supposed to go in the "Catalog requests" forum but apparently
I clicked the wrong forum. Admin: Please move it to the correct forum.
/Jan
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Actually, Catalog Requests is the wrong topic as it’s BricksThatStick who moved
the thread from Catalog Requests to Catalog
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 17:21 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | Please use the catalog requests topic for things that can't be achieved through
the normal forms.
You are welcome to discuss it here in the forum first and then submit change
requests if a concensus is reached.
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Sorry, this was supposed to go in the "Catalog requests" forum but apparently
I clicked the wrong forum. Admin: Please move it to the correct forum.
/Jan
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Actually, Catalog Requests is the wrong topic as it’s BricksThatStick who moved
the thread from Catalog Requests to Catalog
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Sorry, I misunderstood.
In that case, consider this a discussion instead as this is now in the right
forum. I'm not going to do these changes (too many parts).
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 19:14 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | | | | | Please use the catalog requests topic for things that can't be achieved through
the normal forms.
You are welcome to discuss it here in the forum first and then submit change
requests if a concensus is reached.
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Sorry, this was supposed to go in the "Catalog requests" forum but apparently
I clicked the wrong forum. Admin: Please move it to the correct forum.
/Jan
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Actually, Catalog Requests is the wrong topic as it’s BricksThatStick who moved
the thread from Catalog Requests to Catalog
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Sorry, I misunderstood.
In that case, consider this a discussion instead as this is now in the right
forum. I'm not going to do these changes (too many parts).
/Jan
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I doubt anyone else will, either. Just saying.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 19:18 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 19:38 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
The decision is rather simple, isn't it? If it has one, it is "chevron".
If it has more than one, it is "chevrons". English 101.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 19:59 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
The decision is rather simple, isn't it? If it has one, it is "chevron".
If it has more than one, it is "chevrons". English 101.
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Dunno... do you prefer Polka Dots or Polka Dot Pattern?
If I were wearing a dotted shirt and someone asked me what I was wearing, I could
say Polka Dots or a Polka Dot print.
I think the singular is more correct. We don't play with LEGOs after all.
~Jen
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 22:15 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | We don't play with LEGOs after all.
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We do at my house. And TLG can't do anything about that. 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2023 22:17 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | We don't play with LEGOs after all.
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We do at my house. And TLG can't do anything about that.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BricksThatStick | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 05:02 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
The decision is rather simple, isn't it? If it has one, it is "chevron".
If it has more than one, it is "chevrons". English 101.
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Dunno... do you prefer Polka Dots or Polka Dot Pattern?
If I were wearing a dotted shirt and someone asked me what I was wearing, I could
say Polka Dots or a Polka Dot print.
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When the word pattern is used straight afterwards it adds to the confusion.
They are polka dots.
But the pattern is a polka dot pattern.
They are chevrons.
But the pattern is a chevron pattern.
The repetition of the decoration is a plural.
The pattern itself is the singular.
But I agree that we should stick to the literal wording.
1 chevron is a chevron, more than 1 are chevrons.
In the polka dots(s) example having dots as plural also helps when people use
dots as a plural search term because they have a part with dots on it and don't
also use the word polka in their search. They wouldn't just use dot in this
case.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 10:25 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
The decision is rather simple, isn't it? If it has one, it is "chevron".
If it has more than one, it is "chevrons". English 101.
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Dunno... do you prefer Polka Dots or Polka Dot Pattern?
If I were wearing a dotted shirt and someone asked me what I was wearing, I could
say Polka Dots or a Polka Dot print.
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When the word pattern is used straight afterwards it adds to the confusion.
They are polka dots.
But the pattern is a polka dot pattern.
They are chevrons.
But the pattern is a chevron pattern.
The repetition of the decoration is a plural.
The pattern itself is the singular.
But I agree that we should stick to the literal wording.
1 chevron is a chevron, more than 1 are chevrons.
In the polka dots(s) example having dots as plural also helps when people use
dots as a plural search term because they have a part with dots on it and don't
also use the word polka in their search. They wouldn't just use dot in this
case
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I DARE SOMEONE TO SAY LEGOS...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
The decision is rather simple, isn't it? If it has one, it is "chevron".
If it has more than one, it is "chevrons". English 101.
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Dunno... do you prefer Polka Dots or Polka Dot Pattern?
If I were wearing a dotted shirt and someone asked me what I was wearing, I could
say Polka Dots or a Polka Dot print.
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When the word pattern is used straight afterwards it adds to the confusion.
They are polka dots.
But the pattern is a polka dot pattern.
They are chevrons.
But the pattern is a chevron pattern.
The repetition of the decoration is a plural.
The pattern itself is the singular.
But I agree that we should stick to the literal wording.
1 chevron is a chevron, more than 1 are chevrons.
In the polka dots(s) example having dots as plural also helps when people use
dots as a plural search term because they have a part with dots on it and don't
also use the word polka in their search. They wouldn't just use dot in this
case
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I DARE SOMEONE TO SAY LEGOS...
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I built some LEGOs last night.
This one to be exact:
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 15:18 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
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| | I DARE SOMEONE TO SAY LEGOS...
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I built some LEGOs last night.
This one to be exact:
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🫣 The jokes get worse and worse here.
But it’s okay, I’m shielded:
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 16:58 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | They are chevrons.
But the pattern is a chevron pattern.
The repetition of the decoration is a plural.
The pattern itself is the singular.
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I would avoid plural at all times if possible.
For some (strange) reason, searching for singular word will never find entries
using plural. So searching for "chevron" will not show results with "chevrons"
unless you remember to search for "chevron*". That's why I would
never have known there were any entries using "chevrons" if it wasn't
for a fact that I had in my hand a part that I was sure I ought to be able to
find in the catalog and had to find by looking through all printed parts of that
type and color. Sure enought, it had "chevrons" in the title.
So I believe it all comes down to what we expect users to search for. I would
search for "chevron" and most likely never try "chevrons", even
if no result came up.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 17:23 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
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For some (strange) reason, […]
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Not strange at all. It’s only that it searches for complete words.
That’s not how some search engines work (web…) but that’s how other search features
work (editors…).
Some search features are smart enough to have it as an option… like the search-a-member/store-by-name
feature on BrickLink!
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So I believe it all comes down to what we expect users to search for. I would
search for "chevron" and most likely never try "chevrons", even
if no result came up.
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I, me, and myself would search for the plural when there’s more than one. And
then we would replace the final s by a * if we couldn’t find the part.
So, that’s 3 of us against 1 of you for the plural
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Oct 21, 2023 22:44 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
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For some (strange) reason, […]
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Not strange at all. It’s only that it searches for complete words.
That’s not how some search engines work (web…) but that’s how other search features
work (editors…).
Some search features are smart enough to have it as an option… like the search-a-member/store-by-name
feature on BrickLink!
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So I believe it all comes down to what we expect users to search for. I would
search for "chevron" and most likely never try "chevrons", even
if no result came up.
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I, me, and myself would search for the plural when there’s more than one. And
then we would replace the final s by a * if we couldn’t find the part.
So, that’s 3 of us against 1 of you for the plural
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Make that 4. Plurals please where they apply.
If only it were as simple for the sheep, deer, moose, trout, fish, aircraft and
species.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2023 15:13 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | They are chevrons.
But the pattern is a chevron pattern.
The repetition of the decoration is a plural.
The pattern itself is the singular.
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I would avoid plural at all times if possible.
For some (strange) reason, searching for singular word will never find entries
using plural. So searching for "chevron" will not show results with "chevrons"
unless you remember to search for "chevron*". That's why I would
never have known there were any entries using "chevrons" if it wasn't
for a fact that I had in my hand a part that I was sure I ought to be able to
find in the catalog and had to find by looking through all printed parts of that
type and color. Sure enought, it had "chevrons" in the title.
So I believe it all comes down to what we expect users to search for. I would
search for "chevron" and most likely never try "chevrons", even
if no result came up.
/Jan
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There has always been an expectation here that users will adapt to the archaic
search system as they adapt to the site. Unfortunately, that leads to things
like this.
However, the true end goal is to have the search system updated to account for
the problems and not adjust the proper language terms and common English phrasings
that should be able to be used to describe items.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | librarian | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2023 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: "Chevron" vs "Chevrons" | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
The decision is rather simple, isn't it? If it has one, it is "chevron".
If it has more than one, it is "chevrons". English 101.
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To fully circumvent to outdated search engine and peoples inability to remember
to use the *:
...with chevron pattern, two (or three, etc) chevrons
This will present the desired result with single and plural forms.
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