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 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Aug 27, 2023 15:30
 Subject: Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes
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In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.

Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Aug 27, 2023 15:42
 Subject: Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes
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In New Sets, axaday writes:
  In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.

Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.

I don't buy that theory at all. It's not how TLG operates their production
lines.

It's a known fact that TLG use a production code system that ensures that
they can trace all of their production. What makes you think they'd stop
doing that?

Their warehousing system has to know where everything is stored, anyway. So there's
an identification system they're using that is so good that they can even
send out employees to fix production errors that made it out to sets in stores.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 27, 2023 17:24
 Subject: Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes
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In New Sets, axaday writes:
  In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.

Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.

If they really wanted to they could hide a code number in plain sight. For example,
they could have a 16 digit code or barcode randomly assigned to each box, to
confuse people trying to work out their system. Then have the identity as the
9th then 3rd digits, so 7420790518442651 could be a code hiding the identity
that it is number 12 in the series.
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Aug 27, 2023 19:48
 Subject: Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes
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In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
  In New Sets, axaday writes:
  In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.

Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.

If they really wanted to they could hide a code number in plain sight. For example,
they could have a 16 digit code or barcode randomly assigned to each box, to
confuse people trying to work out their system. Then have the identity as the
9th then 3rd digits, so 7420790518442651 could be a code hiding the identity
that it is number 12 in the series.

For sure they had to use some identification code to store it in their warehouse.

Perhaps nobody will discover it.

Hopefully I'll find a complete set, or maybe I'll buy them on BrickLink,
if the prices aren't bananas level high for one. I'm not sure yet.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Aug 27, 2023 20:19
 Subject: Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes
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I promise they are not going to mix them together and then resort individual
boxes to go in the case. That’s a nightmare. If they spend any significant time
packed in the Minifig boxes but not yet in cases, they do it in a bin or hopper
of all the same one. The bin can have Goliath or any QR code they wish writ large
on the side.

In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
  In New Sets, axaday writes:
  In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.

Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.

If they really wanted to they could hide a code number in plain sight. For example,
they could have a 16 digit code or barcode randomly assigned to each box, to
confuse people trying to work out their system. Then have the identity as the
9th then 3rd digits, so 7420790518442651 could be a code hiding the identity
that it is number 12 in the series.

For sure they had to use some identification code to store it in their warehouse.

Perhaps nobody will discover it.

Hopefully I'll find a complete set, or maybe I'll buy them on BrickLink,
if the prices aren't bananas level high for one. I'm not sure yet.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Aug 27, 2023 23:05
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In New Sets, axaday writes:
  I promise they are not going to mix them together and then resort individual
boxes to go in the case. That’s a nightmare. If they spend any significant time
packed in the Minifig boxes but not yet in cases, they do it in a bin or hopper
of all the same one. The bin can have Goliath or any QR code they wish writ large
on the side.

TLG decide in advance what combinations will be in the cases. They certainly
will have a means of tracking them. Logistics storage systems are designed for
that kind of seemingly random packaging.

It would therefore have some logical order to it.

If they really went random, as you state, that would be a logistical nightmare
for them to keep track of. Far better for them to pack combinations of three
boxes in a prearranged order.

It's like any kind of prize giveaway. The prize coordinators know exactly
what prizes will be given out and in what quantity, and even keep track of where
they are going.

This is what TLG are doing. It all is in a logical order. There's no real
randomness to it.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Aug 28, 2023 07:18
 Subject: Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes
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In New Sets, ghyde writes:
  If they really went random, as you state

I didn't. I don't think we are connecting here.

What I'm saying is that the individual minifig boxes do not need to have
any identifying mark for LEGO to keep them straight. No individual assembly
line is going to be putting Goliath into a box and then She-Hulk and then Moon
Knight. A line is going to be dedicated to one minifig and everything coming
from that line will be the same. Whether those go from there straight to the
line that packs them into the cases or they have intermediate storage, they can
easily be kept straight with no individual marking because they are going to
go to a place that only that minifig would go. A big wheeled bin or hopper that
can be labelled for all of them. Then the last machine just has to be fed 3
from each bin or hopper to pack the case.