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| | | Author: | Nubs_Select  | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 17:18 | | Subject: | New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Catalog Associate | | Status: | Completed | |
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| I was adding the dimensions for this part
and was doing the normal check to see if any other parts have the same number
and found this one
however, they are different moulds. You can see the earrings are different shapes
(and the
hair is). I'm assuming this since the base head is the same mould and the
hair is different but the hair for also has the number 19904
on it so perhaps it can be added as an extra number and perhaps someone reading
this who has can check to see if that hair has a different
number
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| | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 17:36 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
| | I was adding the dimensions for this part
and was doing the normal check to see if any other parts have the same number
and found this one
however, they are different moulds. You can see the earrings are different shapes
(and the
hair is). I'm assuming this since the base head is the same mould and the
hair is different but the hair for also has the number 19904
on it so perhaps it can be added as an extra number and perhaps someone reading
this who has can check to see if that hair has a different
number
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I knew The LEGO Group reused molds but wow is this confusing catalog entries.
Do they use the same internal number for both parts, the 7-digit number they
use in the production of these minifigs?
I've never handled a Simpsons minifig personally, so question: Is the hair
on both of these parts molded from a stiff plastic or a flexible rubber-plastic
compound? I forget what they call it exactly, but for some parts they use one
of their flexible plastic or rubber formulas.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| | | I knew The LEGO Group reused molds but wow is this confusing catalog entries.
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they are 
| | Do they use the same internal number for both parts, the 7-digit number they
use in the production of these minifigs?
I've never handled a Simpsons minifig personally, so question: Is the hair
on both of these parts molded from a stiff plastic or a flexible rubber-plastic
compound? I forget what they call it exactly, but for some parts they use one
of their flexible plastic or rubber formulas.
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the base head and the hair are both solid neither are the "rubber" that
lego uses (I only have 1)
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 18:14 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
| | I was adding the dimensions for this part
and was doing the normal check to see if any other parts have the same number
and found this one
however, they are different moulds. You can see the earrings are different shapes
(and the
hair is).
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Yes, the hair are different molds, but the parts are numbered based on the mold
of the head, which is 19902. Notice that the first one has assembly constant
"c01" and the second one has assembly constant "c02". That means
they are two *different* assemblies that use part 19902 as the base part of the
assembly. In other words, they are numbered correctly. However, alternate numbers
can be added based on the mold numbers of the hair sections, also.
| | I'm assuming this since the base head is the same mould and the
hair is different but the hair for also has the number 19904
on it so perhaps it can be added as an extra number and perhaps someone reading
this who has can check to see if that hair has a different
number
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
| | I was adding the dimensions for this part
and was doing the normal check to see if any other parts have the same number
and found this one
however, they are different moulds. You can see the earrings are different shapes
(and the
hair is).
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Yes, the hair are different molds, but the parts are numbered based on the mold
of the head, which is 19902. Notice that the first one has assembly constant
"c01" and the second one has assembly constant "c02". That means
they are two *different* assemblies that use part 19902 as the base part of the
assembly. In other words, they are numbered correctly. However, alternate numbers
can be added based on the mold numbers of the hair sections, also.
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oh so c is for constant. I was assuming it had something to do with it but didn't
know what it stood for. those alternate numbers would be great! Thanks for clarifying!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 18:44 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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oh so c is for constant.
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No, C is for a word starting with a C
I’d say “composite” (= made up of multiple elements).
It’s an assembly (obviously, as there’s different mould numbers), not a dual-moulded
part, but not disassemble-able, like counterparts (another word in 'C' .
| | I was assuming it had something to do with it but didn't
know what it stood for. those alternate numbers would be great! Thanks for clarifying!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 18:45 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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oh so c is for constant.
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No, C is for a word starting with a C
I’d say “composite” (= made up of multiple elements).
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| | It’s an assembly (obviously, as there’s different mould numbers), not a dual-moulded
part, but not disassemble-able, like counterparts (another word in 'C'.
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I can confirm it cant be taken apart I almost destroyed my nail trying to
just to make sure it couldn't
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| | I was assuming it had something to do with it but didn't
know what it stood for. those alternate numbers would be great! Thanks for clarifying!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 18:49 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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I can confirm it cant be taken apart I almost destroyed my nail trying to
just to make sure it couldn't
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Maybe you should have tried with a screw instead
(Thank you all! That’s all for me tonight. Don’t forget to tip the waitress.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 18:50 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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I can confirm it cant be taken apart I almost destroyed my nail trying to
just to make sure it couldn't
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Maybe you should have tried with a screw instead
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| | (Thank you all! That’s all for me tonight. Don’t forget to tip the waitress.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 19:02 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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oh so c is for constant.
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No, C is for a word starting with a C
I’d say “composite” (= made up of multiple elements).
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So pb is for "pain in the back"?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2023 19:06 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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oh so c is for constant.
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No, C is for a word starting with a C
I’d say “composite” (= made up of multiple elements).
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So pb is for "pain in the back"?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Apr 7, 2023 05:26 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
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oh so c is for constant.
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No, C is for a word starting with a C
I’d say “composite” (= made up of multiple elements).
It’s an assembly (obviously, as there’s different mould numbers), not a dual-moulded
part, but not disassemble-able, like counterparts (another word in 'C'.
| | I was assuming it had something to do with it but didn't
know what it stood for. those alternate numbers would be great! Thanks for clarifying!
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C is for constant, aka the part that remains the same and is used as the prefix
ID:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
pb is Pattern Bricklink
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Apr 7, 2023 06:44 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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Er, not really.
The way “constant” is used in the help page, it refers to the prefix letter(s):
— ‘C’ is the constant letter preceding an assembly sequential number,
— ‘P’, ‘PB’, ‘PX’ are the constant letters preceding a pattern sequential number.
So ‘C’ is not for “constant,” it is a constant 
(“Prefix” may be better than “constant”… even if they are prefixes of suffixes
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I wasn’t there when ‘C’ was chosen and besides common sense, the only official
reference to what ‘C’ stands for in assembly IDs I know of is in LDraw:
“Shortcut files used when several separate parts are typically delivered from
LEGO pre-assembled or are frequently used in combination. These are numbered
using the official LEGO number for the composite part, if known, or by
appending cNN to the part number of one of the individual parts.” (my emphasis)
— https://www.ldraw.org/part-number-spec.html
(Yes, could as well be “combination” or even “(short)cut”
If you read further, you’ll also see LDraw is using ‘K’ for flexible parts components
and ‘-F’ for formed, flexed, folded, or otherwise transformed parts )
But maybe there’s an old discussion about it on lugnet or in someone’s memory?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Apr 7, 2023 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | But maybe there’s an old discussion about it on lugnet or in someone’s memory?
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C is for Cookie: https://youtu.be/Ye8mB6VsUHw
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | pcthurman | | Posted: | Apr 7, 2023 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | But maybe there’s an old discussion about it on lugnet or in someone’s memory?
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C is for Cookie: https://youtu.be/Ye8mB6VsUHw
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+1
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Apr 7, 2023 11:30 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
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| | (Yes, could as well be “combination” or even “(short)cut”
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^This.
"Combination" is what I always took the "c" to stand for in assembly
item numbers. You have a base part that is used in combination with another part
or parts, and there may be one or more combinations.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 17:18 | | Subject: | Re: New number perhaps? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| funny enough part doesn't have a different part number
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