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 Author: Hunny1 View Messages Posted By Hunny1
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Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus
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paypal payments are instant & my monies are more easily recoverable with paypal
in an event of loss. i'd rather pay a seller a fee to use it.
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In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

Hi Markus

voted yes

but I give them the option, when they want pay by IBAN, they can pay with PayPal
ofcourse but pay the fees.
Most countries are France, Italy, Portugal.


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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.

Oh come on! 75% of my BL payments go by bank transfer, all items on second hand
websites around here go by bank transfer, pretty much everything goes by bank
transfer. Sure people could technically steal, but that's always the case,
and people will always find ways if they really want to. That issue (which is
actually a non-issue, if you ask me ) is completely unrelated to this particular
suggestion.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 4, 2014 10:52
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.

Oh come on! 75% of my BL payments go by bank transfer, all items on second hand
websites around here go by bank transfer, pretty much everything goes by bank
transfer. Sure people could technically steal, but that's always the case,
and people will always find ways if they really want to. That issue (which is
actually a non-issue, if you ask me ) is completely unrelated to this particular
suggestion.

Ah, but you are a good seller with a decent history here.

Would you pay a zero feedback seller by bank transfer? If BL makes it normal
that sellers can opt out of taking paypal for inter-EU transactions, then it
wouldn't surprise me if the number of scams went up too.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 4, 2014 10:54
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In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.

Oh come on! 75% of my BL payments go by bank transfer, all items on second hand
websites around here go by bank transfer, pretty much everything goes by bank
transfer. Sure people could technically steal, but that's always the case,
and people will always find ways if they really want to. That issue (which is
actually a non-issue, if you ask me ) is completely unrelated to this particular
suggestion.

Ah, but you are a good seller with a decent history here.

Would you pay a zero feedback seller by bank transfer? If BL makes it normal
that sellers can opt out of taking paypal for inter-EU transactions, then it
wouldn't surprise me if the number of scams went up too.

PS I have nothing against people taking payment by bank transfer if the buyer
has confidence in the seller paying that way.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 4, 2014 11:19
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In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.

Oh come on! 75% of my BL payments go by bank transfer, all items on second hand
websites around here go by bank transfer, pretty much everything goes by bank
transfer. Sure people could technically steal, but that's always the case,
and people will always find ways if they really want to. That issue (which is
actually a non-issue, if you ask me ) is completely unrelated to this particular
suggestion.

Ah, but you are a good seller with a decent history here.

Would you pay a zero feedback seller by bank transfer? If BL makes it normal
that sellers can opt out of taking paypal for inter-EU transactions, then it
wouldn't surprise me if the number of scams went up too.

PS I have nothing against people taking payment by bank transfer if the buyer
has confidence in the seller paying that way.

Well, maybe, but I think it in reality it's not so bad. Why? The national
second hand website over here, marktplaats.nl, is notorious for its absense of
moderation and greedy Dutch folk who pretend everything is a collectors item
and every kind of damage is a feature. Everything is bank transfer, but even
there I've never been actually scammed in that way, and I haven't heard
stories like that either.

It's like when chatting just started to catch on and people feared everyone's
identity would be stolen. We could technically get some kind of passport verification,
but in reality it turns out it's not all that bad. It's nice PayPal has
all that claiming stuff (I have no idea how that works though) but a little bit
of risk in life is fine. It's only a tiny bit, because only a seller's
first transaction is a zero feedback transaction, and you can get in touch with
seller to say hi first, or first place a small order, etc.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 4, 2014 11:30
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.

Oh come on! 75% of my BL payments go by bank transfer, all items on second hand
websites around here go by bank transfer, pretty much everything goes by bank
transfer. Sure people could technically steal, but that's always the case,
and people will always find ways if they really want to. That issue (which is
actually a non-issue, if you ask me ) is completely unrelated to this particular
suggestion.

Ah, but you are a good seller with a decent history here.

Would you pay a zero feedback seller by bank transfer? If BL makes it normal
that sellers can opt out of taking paypal for inter-EU transactions, then it
wouldn't surprise me if the number of scams went up too.

PS I have nothing against people taking payment by bank transfer if the buyer
has confidence in the seller paying that way.

Well, maybe, but I think it in reality it's not so bad. Why? The national
second hand website over here, marktplaats.nl, is notorious for its absense of
moderation and greedy Dutch folk who pretend everything is a collectors item
and every kind of damage is a feature. Everything is bank transfer, but even
there I've never been actually scammed in that way, and I haven't heard
stories like that either.

It's like when chatting just started to catch on and people feared everyone's
identity would be stolen. We could technically get some kind of passport verification,
but in reality it turns out it's not all that bad. It's nice PayPal has
all that claiming stuff (I have no idea how that works though) but a little bit
of risk in life is fine. It's only a tiny bit, because only a seller's
first transaction is a zero feedback transaction, and you can get in touch with
seller to say hi first, or first place a small order, etc.

So would you send an untraceable payment to a country like Estonia or Latvia
or Greece or Cyprus or Italy, just to save the seller a few percent? I've
nothing against those countries but they have their fair share of scams coming
from them (not on BL, but more generally).

It's the difference from going from a relatively small country where no-one
is that far from someone else to going to a whole continent.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 4, 2014 11:40
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In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

This would be great for scammers too. Direct payments to a bank account with
no recompense for buyers when the seller disappears.

If anything like this is implemented, I hope BL would have a very large warning
about checking out the seller first.

Oh come on! 75% of my BL payments go by bank transfer, all items on second hand
websites around here go by bank transfer, pretty much everything goes by bank
transfer. Sure people could technically steal, but that's always the case,
and people will always find ways if they really want to. That issue (which is
actually a non-issue, if you ask me ) is completely unrelated to this particular
suggestion.

Ah, but you are a good seller with a decent history here.

Would you pay a zero feedback seller by bank transfer? If BL makes it normal
that sellers can opt out of taking paypal for inter-EU transactions, then it
wouldn't surprise me if the number of scams went up too.

PS I have nothing against people taking payment by bank transfer if the buyer
has confidence in the seller paying that way.

Well, maybe, but I think it in reality it's not so bad. Why? The national
second hand website over here, marktplaats.nl, is notorious for its absense of
moderation and greedy Dutch folk who pretend everything is a collectors item
and every kind of damage is a feature. Everything is bank transfer, but even
there I've never been actually scammed in that way, and I haven't heard
stories like that either.

It's like when chatting just started to catch on and people feared everyone's
identity would be stolen. We could technically get some kind of passport verification,
but in reality it turns out it's not all that bad. It's nice PayPal has
all that claiming stuff (I have no idea how that works though) but a little bit
of risk in life is fine. It's only a tiny bit, because only a seller's
first transaction is a zero feedback transaction, and you can get in touch with
seller to say hi first, or first place a small order, etc.

So would you send an untraceable payment to a country like Estonia or Latvia
or Greece or Cyprus or Italy, just to save the seller a few percent? I've
nothing against those countries but they have their fair share of scams coming
from them (not on BL, but more generally).

It's the difference from going from a relatively small country where no-one
is that far from someone else to going to a whole continent.

Fair enough.. well, I guess I would first get in touch and explain. Maybe get
a solution like send half first, half later, or agree on using PayPal anyway
for that one time, or something else. If it were a small order, 10-15 euro, like
most orders really are, I would just go ahead and do it.
But really as for the Liam Neeson thing, flipping things around: I wouldn't
feel comfortable for my own sake if I had scammed someone and they know my name
and where I live (because that's what you have when you have IBAN). I would
share the address with all of my friends.. prank time
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In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

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In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=589636

Sorry that I didn't look for before my posting
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In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=589636

Sorry that I didn't look for before my posting

Your suggestion is slightly different, you are asking for a subset of countries
that have the Euro. The other suggestion is for all countries in the EU (of which
not all use the Euro).

Robert
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=589636

Sorry that I didn't look for before my posting

Your suggestion is slightly different, you are asking for a subset of countries
that have the Euro. The other suggestion is for all countries in the EU (of which
not all use the Euro).

Robert

My question depends on Euro currency countries only because in my opinion only
these use SEPA bank transfer which is fast and free of charge. Or am I wrong
and you can pay for free by this way from DK, UK etc, too?
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In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:

  My question depends on Euro currency countries only because in my opinion only
these use SEPA bank transfer which is fast and free of charge. Or am I wrong
and you can pay for free by this way from DK, UK etc, too?

As for receiving SEPA payments: for Sweden, it works fine, for Denmark, it's
pretty expensive (both have local Crowns as currency). You can actually better
send a SEPA payment to Norway (not even a EU member country) in some cases than
sending money to Denmark... the Danish banks take 15-50 DKK as conversion fees
AFTER they receive the EURO payment.

Jan
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In Suggestions, Jan_K writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:

  My question depends on Euro currency countries only because in my opinion only
these use SEPA bank transfer which is fast and free of charge. Or am I wrong
and you can pay for free by this way from DK, UK etc, too?

As for receiving SEPA payments: for Sweden, it works fine, for Denmark, it's
pretty expensive (both have local Crowns as currency). You can actually better
send a SEPA payment to Norway (not even a EU member country) in some cases than
sending money to Denmark... the Danish banks take 15-50 DKK as conversion fees
AFTER they receive the EURO payment.

Jan

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In Suggestions, bricksahead writes:
  In Suggestions, Jan_K writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:

  My question depends on Euro currency countries only because in my opinion only
these use SEPA bank transfer which is fast and free of charge. Or am I wrong
and you can pay for free by this way from DK, UK etc, too?

As for receiving SEPA payments: for Sweden, it works fine, for Denmark, it's
pretty expensive (both have local Crowns as currency). You can actually better
send a SEPA payment to Norway (not even a EU member country) in some cases than
sending money to Denmark... the Danish banks take 15-50 DKK as conversion fees
AFTER they receive the EURO payment.

Jan

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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:

  
  
   http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=589636

  
  Sorry that I didn't look for before my posting

  Your suggestion is slightly different, you are asking for a subset of countries
that have the Euro. The other suggestion is for all countries in the EU (of which
not all use the Euro).

...which is some kind of improvement, but certainly not a good solution yet.

As indicated by Roland (therobo) in the old thread from 33 months ago, the efforts
to send a FREE SEPA payment are somewhat different in all SEPA countries, which
is a different set of countries than the EU or the countries using the EURO
as currency. These differences cover very fine steps between "free and easy"
(as for most German bank accounts, for example), and "very costly, upopular and
even being heavily and widely discouraged from"* like in the UK.

Even as an option, I do not see a good solution here unless every seller is allowed
to determine the set of affected countries himself. This is possible for "ship
to" locations already, but the payment type section is not set up for that (yet).

Jan

*AFAIK, even eBay.co.uk strongly advised not to use a bank transfer as payment
type - at least a few years ago. Right now, I do not find this strong statement
anymore. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/pay/methods.html
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  *AFAIK, even eBay.co.uk strongly advised not to use a bank transfer as payment
type - at least a few years ago. Right now, I do not find this strong statement
anymore. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/pay/methods.html

Of course they are biased in that they own PayPal, so prefer that transactions
take place via PayPal.

Integration of PayPal into ebay does make it an extremely easy way to pay for
ebay items.
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In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  
  *AFAIK, even eBay.co.uk strongly advised not to use a bank transfer as payment
type - at least a few years ago. Right now, I do not find this strong statement
anymore. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/pay/methods.html

  Of course they are biased in that they own PayPal, so prefer that transactions
take place via PayPal.
Integration of PayPal into ebay does make it an extremely easy way to pay for
ebay items.

Sure, but the way eBay.co.uk did it back then was warning about severe risks
of bank transfers; I guess some UK members mentioned back then that disclosing
UK bank information to a person you don't know may indeed create a risk of
fraudulent use. Nevertheless, the main point was that for UK buyers, is was (and
still is) very uncomfortable to pay by bank transfer, not only due to the cost
involved.
So if you don't want to turn away 95%+ of UK buyers, you better let them
pay by PayPal even though they are EU members and are technically able to send
a SEPA bank transfer to you.

Jan
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In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
  Hi,

I would be happy when you could include the seller option to enable/disable PayPal
for countries with Euro currency

Countries see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#Direct_usage

Reason: Everyone within the Euro currency zone can pay via bank transfer and
this is free of charge for sellers and buyers. It's also very fast (payment
takes 2-3 days). But seller could save unnecessary PayPal fee.

Thanks,
Markus

If you get one of these free bank transfers, is there any recourse if you don't
send the item?
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  If you get one of these free bank transfers, is there any recourse if you don't
send the item?

Negative feedback. Which you can then probably contest if you say the buyer didn't
pay.
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In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  
  If you get one of these free bank transfers, is there any recourse if you don't
send the item?

Negative feedback. Which you can then probably contest if you say the buyer didn't
pay.

I know several websites where there isn't even that, and 100% of the transactions
go by bank transfer and it's fine. Over here, that is really the normal way
to pay. The suit of armor that is PayPal isn't necessary in my opinion.

As for recourse, you can get angry.. and you know where that person lives