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 Author: therobo View Messages Posted By therobo
 Posted: Jun 15, 2016 15:06
 Subject: Re: Shipping cost suggestion: PayPal Fees
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therobo (9712)

Location:  Germany, Berlin
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Store: Area of Bricks 'n Studs
In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  So the shipping cost suggestion (which I assume will in the future become the
backbone of automatic check-out) is fairly elaborate, it features data from different
countries' postal services, and it allows the seller to play around with
different kinds of handling fees. Nicely done

Some sellers, including yours truly, add PayPal fees to the grand total. It would
be extremely helpful if the shipping cost suggestion had an option (either included
in the handling fee tab or otherwise) called "PayPal fees". Yes, it would require
BL to be up to date with all the relevant PayPal fees per country, but seeing
as BL has already been doing that for the postal services, this seems quite similar.

Just taking the fees from PayPal (by API or manually) and adding them to order
and shipping does not cover the real fees PayPal charges you on the total payment.

Example, shipping to HongKong:

Order value €100
Shipping costs €8.20
Total €108.20

PayPal fees according to Paypal: 5.2% + €0.35

(€108.20 x 5.2%) + €0.35 = €5.63 + €0.35 = €5.98

Payment €108.20 + €5.98 = €114.18

But when the buyer pays €114.18
you get charged by PayPal 5.2% + €0.35 on €114.18 which is €5.94 + €0.35 = €6.29

The difference is €0.31, not much but the calculation would be wrong.
You would have to apply 5.5% + €0.35 as handling fees in your store in the above
exmample to get near the exact fee amount you would be charged by PayPal.

The fixed €0.35 already can be applied in the shipping tool, what is missing
is a percentage field to input any amount you need to cover your PP fees, much
more simple than your suggestion and easy to implement.

You would have to create multiple shipping options according to the various different
PP fees according to buyer's country.

In Germany it's:
1.9% for EU and EEA buyers, your charge would be 2%
3.9% for North American buyers, your charge would be 4%
5.2% for all other buyers, your charge would be 5.5%

  For me it's not that big a deal because I have my own software to calculate
the fees, but for sellers who aren't programmers, this would be really helpful.
Also, once auto-checkout hits, it would need to be there in some form anyway.
Without this, the entire shipping cost suggestion and anything that will be done
with it in the future is rendered useless for those sellers who charge PayPal
fees.

Added benefit is that sellers no longer can throw on some 5% or whatever with
the excuse that calculating exact PayPal fees is so complicated (which is a pretty
good point right now, because the PayPal site is a complete disaster when it
comes to this). As far as I know I (and all of Europe?) are actually by law prohibited
to overcharge payment methods. So this feature would likely reduce the amount
of law-breaking going on.

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View Thread Shipping cost suggestion: PayPal Fees - Teup (6616)
So the shipping cost suggestion (which I assume will in the future become the backbone of automatic check-out) is fairly elaborate, it features data from different countries' [...]
(97 months ago, Jun 15, 2016, to Suggestions)

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View Thread Re: Shipping cost suggestion: PayPal Fees - Teup (6616)
[...] This is the part that I didn't think of yet :D You are right. I will probably try this sometime even though my own software already provides me the numbers. Thanks! [...]
(97 months ago, Jun 15, 2016, to Suggestions)

25 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 2 - Cob (3570) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 3 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 4 - Grego (3899) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 5 - qwertyboy (7881) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 6 - calsbricks (8542) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 7 - calsbricks (8542) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 8 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 9 - calsbricks (8542) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 10 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 11 - FigBits (3564) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 12 - calsbricks (8542) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 13 - FigBits (3564) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 14 - calsbricks (8542) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 15 - yorbrick (1185) 97 months ago Jun 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 16 - calsbricks (8542) 97 months ago Jun 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 17 - FigBits (3564) 97 months ago Jun 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 18 - ToriHada (8887) 97 months ago Jun 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 19 - FigBits (3564) 97 months ago Jun 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 20 - bb138026 (2363) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 21 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 22 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 23 « - therobo (9712) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 24 - Teup (6616) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 25 - therobo (9712) 97 months ago Jun 15, 2016 to Suggestions

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