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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 1, 2014 10:04
 Subject: Re: better definition for incomplete sets require
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In Suggestions, ektadad5856 writes:
  In Suggestions, Pazzo writes:
  Hi all,


somehow...(even bigger and experienced sellers) want to sell a set that just
isn't a set!

How much can one take from a set before it doesn't qualify as a set anymore.


After all those years of Bricklink, why aren't there easy rules for this?

I understand when a box is missing, it is incomplete, or when a few parts are
gone...it is incomplete....


But listing a set without the box, instructions, minifigs and weapons doesn't
leave more than a handfull of bricks....NOT a set!

for example:

http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?pg=1&itemID=99724&advOpt=Y&sz=100&searchSort=P

when you click on only new sets.... personally I think the first 11 do NOT qualify
as a set!

And I understand when you are a newbee...perhaps you did not know the definition
of a set, but this is getting out of hand!


just my 2 cent incomplete set (it used to be a dollar set, but I took 98 cents
for own use)


be cool and have fun!

The more I think about this the more it bothers me. A set has an ID number, just
as a part has a ID number. Is I am selling set 8968 as new in box it should be
just that - Sealed in the Box. It can be Incomplete, say if the box was destroyed,
and New if all the parts are in the numbered bags. Set 8968 has two main items
when assembled. A boat and a "Jetski." I doubt anyone would want to buy the "New,
Complete" set without the 3 minifigs, so it should not be listed that way - it
is not complete. The Boat is not a complete set, if it is needed it could be
listed as a "Complete Assembly" and issued an ID number, then it could be listed
and sold as a Complete Item, assuming it, in fact, had all of the required parts.

I think that by listing "part of a set" as a "complete set" it throws off
the pricing of items, and more importantly I feel, it is only done to throw off
the buyers. Yes, you can describe, you can clarify, you can enclose pictures,
but none of that would be needed if you just listed the item correctly in the
first place. The boat from set 8968 is not the complete set. You are not selling
a complete set, you are selling a collection of parts from a set.

The best way to build trust is to make the process simple and straightforward.
The more qualifiers you add to each item the more complicated it becomes to buy
and sell. As the complication builds the longer it takes to deal with each transaction,
and the more it opens the door to confusion - "What I thought was..." "What I
said was..." "What I meant was..." Set ID 8968-1 Complete, New in Box, Sealed.
(Simple.) Set ID 8968-1 Incomplete, New, The Boat. (Sounds simple - but it is
not the Set.)

Just use the "exclude incomplete sets" box, and you will not see incomplete sets.
If you see one listed as a complete set when it is clearly not, report it.

The problem with complete assemblies is that someone has to catalogue them all
too, which will more than double the size of the sets section of the catalogue
(assuming every set has at least one assembly). Not that many assemblies are
sold on here, especially larger ones, as it takes quite a long time to sort them
out and in reality, not that many people want them due to the removal of minifigs.

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View Thread Re: better definition for incomplete sets require - ektadad5856 (704)
[...] The more I think about this the more it bothers me. A set has an ID number, just as a part has a ID number. Is I am selling set 8968 as new in box it should be just that [...]
(121 months ago, Jul 1, 2014, to Suggestions)

16 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - Pazzo (8551) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 2 - Hunny1 (3737) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 3 - Pazzo (8551) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 4 - Speciale (4830) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 5 - Jan_K (1651) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 6 - par016 (7730) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 7 - Jan_K (1651) 120 months ago Aug 6, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 8 - yorbrick (1185) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 9 - Pazzo (8551) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 10 - yorbrick (1185) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 11 - yorbrick (1185) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 12 - pumbaugh (2456) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 13 - edeevo (11229) 121 months ago Jun 30, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 14 - ektadad5856 (704) 121 months ago Jul 1, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 15 « - yorbrick (1185) 121 months ago Jul 1, 2014 to Suggestions
 Msg 16 - Proprietor (1699) 121 months ago Jul 1, 2014 to Suggestions

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