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 Author: Legovogel View Messages Posted By Legovogel
 Posted: Dec 21, 2012 02:12
 Subject: Re: Lost order....
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Legovogel (1379)

Location:  Netherlands, Flevoland
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jan 3, 2006 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: BRICKS BELOW SEA LEVEL
In Suggestions, Jan_K writes:
  In Suggestions, Marisuda writes:
  In Suggestions, Jan_K writes:
  In Suggestions, Marisuda writes:
  In Suggestions, Jan_K writes:

  
  That's not a legal boundary but part of the PayPal TOS only.
LEGALLY, this applies to (EU) business sellers only - (real!) private sellers
may very well refuse this responsibility, unless they accept PayPal payments...

  At least in the Netherlands this is incorrect. ANYONE selling something to another
person is legally (through consumer law) responsible for getting the goods in
the hands of the buyer in the agree condition. So damaged or lost shipments are
always the seller's responsibility, business or private.

AFAIK, consumer law address legal details between (business!) sellers and CONSUMERS
only - this does not cover purely private transactions, regardless of a payment
involved or not.
[And yes: this exception will NOT apply to the vast majority of BrickLink transactions]

  Well, I did personally contact the consumer law's organisation about this some
while ago, and they were very clear to me that the law in question covered ALL
transactions, including private-private.

interesting...

  This is irrespective of payment method or whatever, when person A buys something
from person B than B is responsible for getting the item to A.
I specifically made the distinction between private and bussiness, but they said
there is no difference.
This is info I got from those who should know the applicable law in the Netherlands...

Absolutely.
So as a Dutch seller, you have a hard time selling ANYTHING anywhere - even your
old clothes at eBay or anything else. I wonder if they are sponsored by TNT to
inrease their turnover through registration services

Thanks for letting me/us know!
Jan


this all doesn't mean that it wouldn't be difficult for a buyer to get his money
back in case of lost shipment, in the end you will have to go to police/court
and for small buys this can be costly...

So it's more theory than anything else...

As you know, we have a thriving site called Marktplaats for 2nd hand stuff...
Most of the time, things work out well.

Richard

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