Author:  wyvern  Posted:  Feb 25, 2024 12:46  Subject:  + Tile/Plate, Round, Modified & ... Jumpers?  Viewed:  114 times  Topic:  Catalog  Status: Open Cancel Reply

BrickLink ID Card wyvern (75) Location:  USA, Ohio Member Since Contact Type Status Nov 12, 2018 Seller  Store: Under the Mountain

There's the Tile, Modified category, which includes parts like   *  15712 Tile, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip Parts: Tile, Modified   *  35463 Tile, Modified 1 x 1 with Tooth / Ear Vertical, Triangular Parts: Tile, Modified   *  15209 Tile, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 Teeth Vertical Parts: Tile, Modified All of which are obviously indeed "modified", because they are tiles with something extra. So why aren't these round tiles (among others) considered modified as well?   *  20482 Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder Parts: Tile, Round   *  77813 Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Loop Parts: Tile, Round   *  74698 Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Lifting Ring Thick and Bottom Stud Holder Parts: Tile, Round The same applies to plates; with the current logic, these are just a few that should be Plate, Round, Modified. It's ... interesting to note that these parts are instead spread across two categories as of now (Plate, Round & Tile, Round).   *  3661 Plate, Round 1 x 1 Open Stud with Bar Arm Down Parts: Plate, Round   *  26047 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Bar Handle Parts: Plate, Round   *  18674 Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Open Stud Parts: Tile, Round   *  32627 Tile, Round 4 x 4 with 2 Hollow Studs Parts: Tile, Round But that's all about categories that don't exist yet. On a more immediate note, I also wonder what the catalog's logic is for categorizing jumpers. To me, they look primarily a tile, so I would think to look under Tile, Modified. Especially with parts like   *  6177 Tile, Round 8 x 8 with 4 Studs in Center Parts: Tile, Round Bear with me here, I'm using that extreme example to make a point: It seems like it meets the requirements to be classified as a jumper (flat piece with studs only in the middle, and antistuds on the bottom). And when you look at that part, or an officially recognized 1x2 jumper, do you see "a tile with studs", or "a plate with studs not there and/or moved to the middle of the part"? The latter is nonsense, frankly. Never mind the fact that jumpers now have a groove, a feature which is reserved for what? Tiles. And look at parts like   *  33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge Parts: Tile, Modified that are already under Tile, Modified, and rightly so. Now look at a jumper. Is that jumper closer to the above part, or the below part from Plate, Modified? I'm sorry, but the answer is obvious. Jumpers are modified tiles.   *  60478 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Handle on End Parts: Plate, Modified Similarly, more catalog browsing leads us to this part, which is under Plate, Modified, despite being an undeniable relative of 33909 (and therefore should most certainly be considered a modified tile)   *  41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove Parts: Plate, Modified Anyway, to sum it up, I think the categorization logic needs better consistency. Modified round tiles/plates should get their own category, and jumpers should go under Tile, Modified instead of Plate, Modified (and if they're round, put them under the newly created Tile, Round, Modified). I'm curious about the current reasoning for the way this all is right now. I'm sure I'm not the first to think of these things, and while I feel strongly about these changes and that my logic is sound, I'm obligated to assume I'm missing something and that it's the way it currently is for a reason.

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Re: + Tile/Plate, Round, Modified & ... Jumpers? - yorbrick (1185)

[...] Probably because there would be so few parts left in round tiles if all the modified versions were removed. (3 months ago, Feb 25, 2024, to Catalog)

Re: + Tile/Plate, Round, Modified & ... Jumpers? - jennnifer (3535)

[...] You would like them to split a category with just 24 items in it? Is this really a problem? Not all categories use the same definitions. (URL) Otherwise, we'd [...] (3 months ago, Feb 25, 2024, to Catalog)

Re: + Tile/Plate, Round, Modified & ... Jumpers? - yorbrick (1185)

Be careful if you are calling for consistency. One way of having consistency is to do what LEGO does and have a single combined category for plates and tiles, just one for minifig [...] (3 months ago, Feb 26, 2024, to Catalog)

Re: + Tile/Plate, Round, Modified & ... Jumpers? - StormChaser (569)

[...] Current and past catalog experts have had innovative ideas. Unfortunately, innovation is not prioritized at BrickLink for a number of reasons which I prefer not to discuss [...] (3 months ago, Feb 26, 2024, to Catalog)

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