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 Author: NoGravitasHere View Messages Posted By NoGravitasHere
 Posted: Feb 8, 2024 23:03
 Subject: Re: What is #44814 Glitter Trans-Clear coated in?
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
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  Had this first image cross my path today, a supposedly non-glittery Avohkii.
It reminded me of a damaged one I had in my sad bin, which had a chunk of its
crest missing its trademark shininess. I had to mess with a bunch of other stripping
chemicals anyway (bonus pic of my shiny new dechromed Light Grey Hau) so I figured
I'd chuck this in some chems and see what happened.

Evapo-Rust was unreactive, unsurprisingly. I only used that because I knew it
could strip galvanisation off screws and I had the ex-chrome Hau to test (also
no reaction). Simple Green concentrate was similarly unreactive, but stripped
the Hau perfectly when used with the ultrasonic cleaner. I did manage to get
a positive reaction with IPA, and was able to get the glitter layer to go tacky.
I scraped off the majority of the central crest with my thumbnail as a proof
of concept sorta thing. I can confirm that it's just a layer over top. There's
a milky white transparent mask underneath. I feel cheated.

I've currently got it sitting overnight in a bath of acetone-based nail polish
remover (hardware store was closed, supermarket was not lmao) and will strip
the glitter 'varnish' off entirely. I'd love to know exactly what
this glitter layer is made of, if anyone has any insight? It might make removing
it a little easier.

The next question here is: what colour actually is this? I was under the impression
117 Glitter Trans-Clear was plastic with embedded glitter, not just a coating.
Would this just be 40 Trans-Clear + shiny varnish?

Cheers
James @ PSPS


I would like to get this mask separated out in the catalog from the plain-color
versions since it is actually patterned and officially a trans-clear part. How
would you describe the pattern? Looks like shiny gold speckles or something?

Thanks,
Randy

Iridescent gold glitter, maybe?

Actually, it's not as color-shifting as I remember it, but it's really
shiny when the light hits it right, where as from other angles it's barely
visible. The glitter is much, much smaller than the typical glitter.


Meet the catalog's newest resident:
 
Part No: 44814pb01  Name: Bionicle Mask Avohkii  with Gold Glitter Coating Pattern
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44814pb01 Bionicle Mask Avohkii with Gold Glitter Coating Pattern
Parts: BIONICLE, Kanohi Mask



How are we looking at getting the 2 different 4-Hole Kraahkan recognised?


Point me directly to the information, and I will look into it.

Sure, I'll dump it here. Image here shows the 8 production Kraahkan, with
their BrickLink labels. Top to bottom (and left to right):

- 6-Hole (Pearl Black)
- 5-Hole (Pearl Black)
- 4-Hole (Pearl Gold, Flat Dark Gold, Pearl Black, Black)
- Movie Edition (Black)
- Dume Mask of Power (Black)

See how the Black Kraahkan sticks out like a sore thumb? It's much darker
than the Pearl Black version in the centre of the cross. It's the same situation
as the Rahaga/Rahkshi heads existing in 2 different blacks/whites. The catalogue
does currently distinguish between Pearl Black and Black, which is good! That
was the hard bit lol.

I was confused at the high number of 38593 Makuta (Teridax) I had seen with 4-Holes,
in person or online. Many of these appeared to be owned from NIB, or at least
not built from spare parts/BrickLink orders. I spoke with a number of collectors,
and was able to confirm that some copies of Teridax (solo and combiner versions).


In 2003, the 6-Hole mould (#44815a) was introduced with #8593 Makuta (Teridax).
The 6-Hole was produced exclusively in Pearl Black. Partway through production,
mould cavity(?) 4-01 broke/damaged/whatever, and produced the 5-Hole mismould.
This also exists only in Pearl Black. These 2 masks give us a baseline/control
group to work with.

4-01's damage was noticed during Teridax's production, and to correct
the issue all Kraahkan moulds were modified to no longer clear the top 2 holes,
giving us the 4-Hole a full 2 years earlier than is currently recognised. A large
number of these 'Teridax' 4-Holes were produced, which explains why so
many Teridax pop up with 4-Holes. This 4-Hole was produced in Pearl Black.

In 2005, the 4-Hole mould was used again for the gold Kraahkan in #8758 Tower
of Toa. This is currently believed to be the first usage of the mould.

in 2008, the mould was resurrected for #8593 Makuta Icarax. This mask was produced
in Black, which is recognised by the catalogue currently. Icarax's version
lacks the subtle metallic sheen of the original releases, and appears as a darker,
more saturated black on comparison.

How's that? Need more pics?
 

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View Thread Re: What is #44814 Glitter Trans-Clear coated in? - randyf (442)
[...] Point me directly to the information, and I will look into it.
(4 months ago, Feb 8, 2024, to Catalog)

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View Thread Re: What is #44814 Glitter Trans-Clear coated in? - WOLKsite (13)
[...] There is a change request: (URL) It would be nice to have the 5-hole Kraahkan as well in the catalogue, do we have any pictures of it on its own? The inventory of 8593 [...]
(4 months ago, Feb 9, 2024, to Catalog)
View Thread Re: What is #44814 Glitter Trans-Clear coated in? - randyf (442)
[...] Perfect! After reviewing all of the information and the change log for set 8593, it is clear that the information was known for a very long time. However, Pearl Black [...]
(4 months ago, Feb 9, 2024, to Catalog)

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