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 Author: The_Boyz_Bricks View Messages Posted By The_Boyz_Bricks
 Posted: Jan 27, 2024 13:08
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - January 26
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello again everyone,

My initial post on this subject earlier this month has garnered almost 700 replies,
which is right about the level of the BrickArms threads a few years ago.

A New Thread

So I'm starting a new thread with some new information, and hopefully a few
links that will help you navigate through this complex discussion topic.

Here is the original post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1447090

Here are three Help topics:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2626
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2629

Here is a list of my replies on this subject:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?overTP=Y&q=variants&qS=Y&msgID=&uName=admin_russell&ID=&status=&v=c&max=50

If you don't wish to read all 700 replies in the previous thread, you can
at least look through some of these for answers to most of the questions that
have been raised.

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The Responses

We sent an email out to all active sellers a couple days ago and we expected
a flood of responses in the Forum. As much as it may seem to be an overwhelming
response, we do appreciate all the members who have posted and shared their feelings
about this project. Keep them coming.

So far I have seen two YouTube videos addressing this issue, and I'll post
in this new thread to respond directly (and completely) to what they are saying.

I will be answering directly several of the more detailed replies over the next
day or two in an effort to clear up any misunderstandings.

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The Research

The following is an example of the some of the research that has been done to
help determine the course of action we are taking.

When it comes to Frosted Bricks, we took a look at the price guide, the inventories
that contained these special bricks, and we studied the nature of the bricks,
at least as far as we could.

What we found was that bricks listed under the normal (umbrella) entries sold
on average for over twice the price, and the volume of sales was 17 times of
bricks listed under the frosted entries. In addition, sellers listing under the
main entries didn’t have to spend the time sorting out their parts. So from a
marketplace standpoint, these frosted entries are simply an inefficiency (see
image below).

In the inventories, there was only spotty information about which sets these
bricks are in. This is likely the main reason for the lower sales volume, because
the BrickLink inventory system drives sales for vintage parts. We started adding
frosted entries to the catalog over 20 years ago, but they are only reflected
in 24 inventories to date.

When it comes to the bricks themselves, there were actually more variants than
what are currently shown on BrickLink. And we’ve never been able to settle on
a reason for these peculiar markings. Some have suggested they are simply the
same patterns one would find on solid color bricks of the same era. Whatever
they are, though, this type of variant is typically found only in sellers’ notes
and not reflected in standalone BrickLink entries.

In fact, it is a peculiar thing that these entries were only for Transparent
versions of the part. We don’t really do that on BrickLink. Normally, all the
colors are placed under one entry.

But perhaps the best reason for removing these entries is the lack of a real
use case for any of our members. For new users, these entries clutter up important
basic parts categories, and if they end up on a wanted list, they can certainly
cause problems.

For the seller who wants to fill out vintage sets, these entries do not solve
their need completely, because there are serious color matching issues with older
transparent parts. It is not “plug and play” with these variants, and truth be
told, it would be easier to obtain the necessary selection of parts by using
the main entries.

For the hard core collector looking for information, BrickLink has very little
to offer in the case of the frosted bricks. We don’t need separate entries to
add representative photos and comparison images of variants, and we were likely
to never complete the “collection” of these entries due to the large number of
different patterns.

In order to preserve what knowledge we have, we plan to release new Help pages
for certain variants covered in this project. Stay tuned.

Will these variants be marked for deletion or be removed from the catalog completely?

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View Thread Variants Thread - January 26 - Admin_Russell
Hello again everyone, My initial post on this subject earlier this month has garnered almost 700 replies, which is right about the level of the BrickArms threads a few years [...]
(4 months ago, Jan 26, 2024, to Catalog)

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View Thread Re: Variants Thread - January 26 - Nubs_Select (3821)
[...] Since they will be merged there won’t be anything to mark for deletion presumably
(4 months ago, Jan 27, 2024, to Catalog)

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