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 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Jun 27, 2023 16:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure sw0323
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In Inventories Requests, lehmann writes:
  In Inventories Requests, ghyde writes:
  In Inventories Requests, lehmann writes:
  In Inventories Requests, DeLuca writes:
  In Inventories Requests, lehmann writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: sw0323  Name: Darth Maul - Horns and Cape, Plain Legs
* 
sw0323 (Inv) Darth Maul - Horns and Cape, Plain Legs
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Delete 1 Part 3626bps8 Black Minifigure, Head Alien with SW Darth Maul, Red Face Pattern - Blocked Open Stud

Comments from Submitter:
(This might seem like an invalid request but please read for details.)

The head of this figure, at least on every version I have seen including my own from a sealed set of 7961, is part 3626cps8, not part 3626bps8 as is currently listed.

These parts are supposedly linked by having the same printed design on a different head (b vs c type heads). In fact, the prints are very noticeably different, such as the nose being more detailed, the chin being wider and additional black markings near the eyes being present on the newer version. (Note- these are not the 'print variations' shown in the image on the item page of 3626bps8. This is a 3rd design, the same as is shown on the page for 3626cps8.)

The same issue is present in the inventory of sw0423 'Santa Darth Maul'.

Additional note: I attempted to include a row in my change request to add part 3626cps8 to the inventory but this was not allowed as the system believes that part is already listed in the inventory.


Can you post comparison photos?

Head accessories removed for better comparison. I've had these figures for
a while so they have some wear but the relevant print differences are still visible.

I'm not an expert by any means, but to me it looks like you have the print
variation in the third photo of the head.

It might warrant another variation image photo, but it still looks substantially
like the same head.

Cheers ...

ghyde

The one on the left in the photo I posted is the one on the right in the 3rd
image on the page for 3626bps8.

The one on the right (sw0323) in my photo is very clearly different from this.
It is not simply a production variant but an entirely different design first
produced for the 7961 Sith Infiltrator. I'm fairly certain the 3626bps8 design
was never used in this set, based on reviews I have found from when the set first
released and also the box art of the set clearly showing the 3626cps8 version.

Both are Darth Maul heads but that's about where the similarities end. All
of the lines are different shapes or different thicknesses. To me it's
like saying 3626bpb0238 and 3626bpb0321 are just variants of the same piece simply
because both are Palpatine.

(Something to note is that the inventory for the figure gives the box art of
the set as the source rather than the contents of the set- this may be the source
of the error if the person who made the inventory didn't realise based on
looking at the box art that this was, at the time, a new design rather than a
reuse of the previous version.)

It may be related to how TLG views their own inventory.

For instance they only recognize one variant of pearl light grey, as described
in this thread:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1364647

Therefore, they may view the Darth Maul head you're talking about as the
same head.

If you didn't know, TLG now owns BrickLink, and has the final say on what
variations would be considered similar or not.

It's currently up to the BrickLink catalog administrators to list variations
as TLG has not yet told them not to do so. This may change in the future.

This is my own opinion, based on the stance that TLG are taking with color issues.
You are free to have your own opinion, but the Darth Maul head entry might just
end up with a variant photo added.

Finally, there are printing variations even with the most accurate printing hardware
TLG owns. If this is only considered a printing variation by their production
team, then that's all it ever will be to them.

Cheers ...

ghyde

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View Thread Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure sw0323 - lehmann (42)
[...] The one on the left in the photo I posted is the one on the right in the 3rd image on the page for 3626bps8. The one on the right (sw0323) in my photo is very [...]
(11 months ago, Jun 27, 2023, to Inventories Requests)

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View Thread Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure sw0323 - randyf (442)
[...] They don't. They have different element numbers (PCCs). The prints are definitely different. [...] Nothing could be further from the truth. TLG has imposed [...]
(11 months ago, Jun 27, 2023, to Inventories Requests)

17 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - lehmann (42) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 2 - DeLuca (286) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 3 - lehmann (42) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 4 - ghyde (203) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 5 - lehmann (42) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 6 « - ghyde (203) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 7 - randyf (442) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 8 - DeLuca (286) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 9 - Turez (43) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 10 - jennnifer (3535) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 11 - SylvainLS (46) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 12 - jennnifer (3535) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 13 - SylvainLS (46) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 14 - randyf (442) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 15 - lehmann (42) 11 months ago Jun 28, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 16 - lehmann (42) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests
 Msg 17 - DeLuca (286) 11 months ago Jun 27, 2023 to Inventories Requests

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