Author:  bb554542  Posted:  Feb 25, 2017 00:47  Subject:  Re: This will reduce scammers by 95%  Viewed:  96 times  Topic:  Suggestions Cancel Reply

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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:    In Suggestions, Proprietor writes:    I thought the implementation of on-site payments was supposed to help in some way. Was it only by requiring Paypal for new sellers? We know that's no guarantee. I'm pretty sure it is, actually. If the purchase qualifies for buyer protection, the buyer is protected (regardless of whether Paypal can successfully recover the funds or not). They changed their terms while back.    Wonder if there's a way for BL to work with PP so that new BL sellers have their funds held at PP for a number of days until buyers confirm receipt. And maybe it needs to be receipt by buyers who have a minimum of X feedback or Y years of membership, so it's not sham buyers validating delivery. Question is whether the burden dissuades more legit new sellers than it thwarts shams. Considering the surplus of sellers here, I'd think it worth a try. Having an escrow-type way to hold funds was part of the plan that was rolled out at the summit in Chicago a year and a half ago. When BL discussed it on the forum, a lot of people on the forum complained very loudly that it was a terrible idea, and we haven't heard a lot about it since then. It's too bad, because I thought (and still think) that it's a fantastic idea. (A side benefit of it is that BL could LOWER our Paypal fees, as well.) -- Marc. BrickLink could never hold Paypal funds in escrow. IANAL, but I don't see how that is legal, for one thing. It would also be a huge burden on BrickLink to track all that money and not have it disappear due to simple (keypunch) error, hacking, theft, mismanagement, or imcompetence. For another thing, it won't work for logistical reasons -- Sellers need access to the Paypal payment in order to ship the order -- the verified address, etc, for both the buyer protection and seller protection to work. Also, you cannot expect sellers to front all the postage costs with the funds in escrow. If a parcel costs 20 bucks to ship, you can't expect the vendor to handle that cost while there is money for the transaction that the seller cannot access. It's bad enough sellers already subsidize shipping on each and every Paypal-paid order, but expecting them to ship without the cash up front simply won't work. ____

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Re: This will reduce scammers by 95% - FigBits (3564)

[...] I'm pretty sure it is, actually. If the purchase qualifies for buyer protection, the buyer is protected (regardless of whether Paypal can successfully recover [...] (89 months ago, Feb 2, 2017, to Suggestions)

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 Msg 1 - Heartbricker (18307) 89 months ago Feb 1, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 2 - MasterMinifigs (1741) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 3 - wanderer101 (2388) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 4 - estaswick (1432) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 5 - udenbricks (3174) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 6 - Heartbricker (18307) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 7 - Proprietor (1699) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 8 - Heartbricker (18307) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
 Msg 9 - FigBits (3564) 89 months ago Feb 2, 2017 to Suggestions
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