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 Author: ToriHada View Messages Posted By ToriHada
 Posted: Jul 16, 2016 07:51
 Subject: Re: Do away with feedback
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ToriHada (8887)

Location:  USA, North Carolina
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In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
  
Why do buyers need "accountability" beyond paying for their orders?

Because they are the other half of the contract and are legitimately expected
to act fairly and in good faith in following the seller's and BL's terms.
If not by you, then by numerous other sellers.

  When you walk into your local supermarket...

Oh come on! You KNOW that shopping in a supermarket in no way compares to shopping
at a BL store. This has been explained countless times.

  I really just don't get this notion at all. Beyond issues surrounding payment
what is there? Take payment (paid, didn't pay, charged back, etc) out of
it and to me, every argument comes down to "I want to make the buyer suffer consequences just because..."

It is insultingly dismissive of legitimate seller concerns to suggest that they
want to penalize buyers out of spite or "just because". I don't know what
has caused you to have such a jaded view of BL sellers, but in my experience
more than 99% of them have been wonderful and go out of their way to provide
excellent courteous service to their buyers.

And as has been repeatedly explained in the past, there are many things buyers
can do (and have done) beyond merely making payment that can legitimately affect
how the seller feels about the transaction or which could form a valid basis
for informing or warning the community about future dealings with such buyers.
This includes bogus PayPal reversal claims, chargebacks, claims of account hijacking,
excessive claims of non-receipt, illegal demands for customs fraud, refusals
to pick up packages from customs because they don't want to pay the duties,
threats to file PayPal claims if the seller does not reimburse them for customs
duties, angry insulting outbursts, bogus emotional accusations of seller fraud,
profanity and vulgarity in their communications with sellers, refusal to communicate
and amicably try to resolve problems before leaving feedback, unreasonable demands,
harassment, and other misdeeds and irrational behavior that make the transaction
experience difficult, unexpectedly costly or unpleasant for the seller.

Granted... The vast majority of the times buyers are fantastic and everything
is fine. But for the one or two percent of times when it is not, I see no legitimate
reason why sellers cannot leave appropriate feedback honestly expressing how
they feel about the transaction and helping the community by cautioning other
sellers in the future. That is way more than "just because". And the fact that
a small minority of sellers may abuse this right is no reason to withhold it
from everyone else.

Thor

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[...] [...] Why do buyers need "accountability" beyond paying for their orders? When you walk into your local supermarket, what sort of accountability are they demanding [...]
(96 months ago, Jul 15, 2016, to Suggestions)

33 Messages in this Thread:

 Msg 1 - cosmicray (3498) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 2 - Brickwilbo (1534) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 3 - cosmicray (3498) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 4 - dpumpkin (47) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 5 - Rob_and_Shelagh (26344) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 6 - ToriHada (8887) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 7 - jedvii (666) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 8 - estaswick (1432) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 9 - ToriHada (8887) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 10 - cosmicray (3498) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 11 - jedvii (666) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 12 - QCBricks (13612) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 13 - amerryventure (10103) 96 months ago Jul 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 14 - jedvii (666) 96 months ago Jul 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 15 - cosmicray (3498) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 16 - QCBricks (13612) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 17 - ToriHada (8887) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 18 - cosmicray (3498) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 19 - QCBricks (13612) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 20 - ToriHada (8887) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 21 - jedvii (666) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 22 - Grego (3899) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 23 - QCBricks (13612) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 24 « - ToriHada (8887) 96 months ago Jul 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 25 - jedvii (666) 96 months ago Jul 16, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 26 - FigBits (3564) 96 months ago Jul 17, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 27 - Brettj666 (1112) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 28 - QCBricks (13612) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 29 - dustyshelf (2092) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 30 - calebfishn (2146) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 31 - cosmicray (3498) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 32 - agpage (134) 96 months ago Jul 15, 2016 to Suggestions
 Msg 33 - legoman77 (3628) 96 months ago Jul 17, 2016 to Suggestions

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