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 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 2, 2024 14:33
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Amazingly (8674)

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Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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 Author: BigBBricks View Messages Posted By BigBBricks
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Nope, fully against PayPal's terms and service in most countries. It was
changed pre-COVID but many stores, especially in Europe, try to do it. If you
find someone doing it, alert them to the rule and notify the BL staff as I think
it is against their rules as well.
 Author: BigBBricks View Messages Posted By BigBBricks
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In Selling, BigBBricks writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Nope, fully against PayPal's terms and service in most countries. It was
changed pre-COVID but many stores, especially in Europe, try to do it. If you
find someone doing it, alert them to the rule and notify the BL staff as I think
it is against their rules as well.

Additionally, I believe the way the PP rule is written, if they specifically
state it is to cover PP fees or just fees, then it is against. If it is just
a fee that does not say that it is not specific, then it is allowable but cringe.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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peregrinator (776)

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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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1001bricks (52375)

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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.

+1

Of course I'll calculate and often it's still worth to buy with fees,
but I had to spend some time to calculate and compare

Which is why in a general meaning I try to avoid shops with fees.

Note conversion fees are quite difficult and may represent the most.

Say you've a 5% PayPal or payment fee (on order total only), but then you've
to pay in a specific currency (HUF?) then it's another 5% but on the whole
(including fees AND shipping).

In the end it's not at all as simple as 5+5, it's maybe 12 or 13% fees
you pay...
 Author: 129samot View Messages Posted By 129samot
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:17
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I recon this is done so you get more sales through the "auto select"
feature in "buy all"?
Or does the algorithm account for fees?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Selling, 129samot writes:
  I recon this is done so you get more sales through the "auto select"
feature in "buy all"?
Or does the algorithm account for fees?

It doesn’t account for real shipping: it uses an average of “recent” “similar”
orders (it’s somewhere in the help I think); so I doubt it does anything with
fees.
 Author: rankster View Messages Posted By rankster
 Posted: May 14, 2024 06:36
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  Say you've a 5% PayPal or payment fee (on order total only), but then you've
to pay in a specific currency (HUF?) then it's another 5% but on the whole
(including fees AND shipping).

This another 5% currency conversation fee could be saved by paying with your
card instead of using PayPal's awful exchange rate.

I have a Wise card which is added to my PP account and if I need to pay in any
other currency than EUR, the card issuer's rate will be used and Wise charges
way less than 5% for conversation.

An example: I paid at a Hungarian gas station 16070 HUF which equaled 41,23 EUR
and Wise charged me only 0,37 EUR for exchanging my EUR to HUF which is less
than 1%.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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1001bricks (52375)

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In Selling, rankster writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  Say you've a 5% PayPal or payment fee (on order total only), but then you've
to pay in a specific currency (HUF?) then it's another 5% but on the whole
(including fees AND shipping).

This another 5% currency conversation fee could be saved by paying with your
card instead of using PayPal's awful exchange rate.

I have a Wise card which is added to my PP account and if I need to pay in any
other currency than EUR, the card issuer's rate will be used and Wise charges
way less than 5% for conversation.

An example: I paid at a Hungarian gas station 16070 HUF which equaled 41,23 EUR
and Wise charged me only 0,37 EUR for exchanging my EUR to HUF which is less
than 1%.

Interesting, thank you!
But those who use this trick must be 0.001% of the buyers
For the remaining, it's a lot of fees on top of fees.
 Author: zero42593 View Messages Posted By zero42593
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I separate everything because of tax rules as some states tax shipping some do
not so for me I am not nickel-and-diming you I am trying to save some people
sales tax.




In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
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In Selling, runner.caller writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".

It says in their terms that 3.5% is added for all electronic payments and it
was added to the order. Just wanted to make sure before I cause problems.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  It says in their terms that 3.5% is added for all electronic payments and it
was added to the order. Just wanted to make sure before I cause problems.

Added to the order at the time you placed it or added to the order at the time
of invoicing?
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In Selling, runner.caller writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".

Yes although like you say I think the principal from Paypal's perspective
is that you cannot charge your paypal customers different to any other payment
method so even if you called it an Admin fee that fee would need to apply to
all customers and not just your Paypal customers else it would be deemed as a
paypal specific admin fee. I guess you could get around this by making your store
only accept paypal as a payment method because then the admin fee applies to
all your customers equally!
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Basically yes.

Your prices should includes your costs.

Like your Internet access cost isn't free; will you make an extra fee for
it?

Also: Rental (?), Insurance, Power bill, water, toilet paper, toner, bank fees,
accounting cost, stickers, salary, gas to go to the post office...
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.
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  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.

Thanks for your time, and the others who commented.
I'm going to open the rest of the series 26 cases to see if I get one with
a yellow leg like the one posted this morning
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

Hi,

Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

Because I prefer to know before to pay how much it could be, I asked and had
this reply:
"These are bricklink, paypal, packaging fees, in general it is
between 1 and 2 € for small orders."

And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least
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  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

Indeed!  It takes me O days here
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In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

Indeed!  It takes me O days here

Zero day? You're a living exploit!
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

No no, I'm just in forum for funzies!
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least

Usually 1-2 days but what is you doing that takes 15 days 🦦…
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

Timothy Smith invented 15 years ago the BrickLink forum famous "Stamp licking
fee"
Loved this picture
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  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...

If they have said that in bricklink messages, rather than just by email, then
report it. They should be suspended for doing that.
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

This is strictly forbidden by PayPal and BrickLink - and somewhere probably by
EU Laws...
You could report this shop, or at least tell them and see if they change their
Terms?
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That’s a wild one 👁️👁️
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

  So everyone else is wrong?
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In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers


Bank transfer, that exists???

I wish I could transfer you my bank!

They're just screaming at us as of right now

I just followed Chickaroo's rule: buy first think later!
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers


Bank transfer, that exists???

well we call it e-transfer, so technically yes

  I wish I could transfer you my bank!

They're just screaming at us as of right now

I just followed Chickaroo's rule: buy first think later!

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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

As soon as I see that they are passing on their charges, I least favorite the
store.
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.
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In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.

I particularly like this one that I came across with today:

In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.
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In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.

I particularly like this one that I came across with today:

In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.


I saw a store in the US that said 2.00 was added for things like bubble mailers,
tape, pens, stamps and even gas to get to the post office. The list had a lot
more but the stamps and Pens really had me laughing.
I don't understand how people do not put themselves in the buyers shoes.
If you are going to charge a fee like that you are better off not saying anything
at all.
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We separate out shipping and handling costs as some states do not charge sales
tax on these items so we try to help buyers where we can by lowering their sales
tax. https://taxhero.net/blog/sales-tax-on-shipping/



In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.

I particularly like this one that I came across with today:

In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.


I saw a store in the US that said 2.00 was added for things like bubble mailers,
tape, pens, stamps and even gas to get to the post office. The list had a lot
more but the stamps and Pens really had me laughing.
I don't understand how people do not put themselves in the buyers shoes.
If you are going to charge a fee like that you are better off not saying anything
at all.