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Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
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of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

Please, don’t repeat that nonsense.  There’s no magical unutilized brain power. 
Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.


Also, welcome in 1965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
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In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
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of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

Please, don’t repeat that nonsense.  There’s no magical unutilized brain power. 
Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.


Also, welcome in 1965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

Good morning, Sylvain.

Always good to hear from you
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In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
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of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

Please, don’t repeat that nonsense.  There’s no magical unutilized brain power. 
Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.


Also, welcome in 1965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

too true sadly.
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of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

Please, don’t repeat that nonsense.  There’s no magical unutilized brain power. 
Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.

Oh then you've no excuse!
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In Off Topic, 1001bricks writes:
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Oh then you've no excuse!


Au contraire: it’s not my fault if I can’t do more, I’m at my max

On the other hand: you’re hopeless (and we all are, and in all the senses
of the word )
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  Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.

Speak for yourself, I overclocked my brain and can now use 115% of it
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  Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.

Speak for yourself, I overclocked my brain and can now use 115% of it

How did you over cook it?
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In Off Topic, UTLF writes:
  
  Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.

Speak for yourself, I overclocked my brain and can now use 115% of it

Overclocking??? For what? I'm idle most of the time!

( please Sylvain don't say "I knew it!" )
 
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In Off Topic, 1001bricks writes:
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Overclocking??? For what? I'm idle most of the time!

( please Sylvain don't say "I knew it!" )

Beware, you need exercise at your age!  (Says he, lounging on his couch.)
Two of your hearts show alarming peaks.
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In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
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Overclocking??? For what? I'm idle most of the time!

( please Sylvain don't say "I knew it!" )

Beware, you need exercise at your age!  (Says he, lounging on his couch.)
Two of your hearts show alarming peaks.

That was him each time he ate something with mustard on it
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In Off Topic, 1001bricks writes:
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  Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.

Speak for yourself, I overclocked my brain and can now use 115% of it

Overclocking??? For what? I'm idle most of the time!

( please Sylvain don't say "I knew it!" )

If being idle dosnt use 100% then you must be doing something right (now
will you remember that reference )
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In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
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of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

Please, don’t repeat that nonsense.  There’s no magical unutilized brain power. 
Everybody’s (sadly) using 100% of their capacity.


Also, welcome in 1965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

Years ago there was an Albert Brooks movie, "Defending Your Life," in
which you can get reincarnated and use more of your brain (like 50-60% instead
of the mythical 10%). But it doesn't seem like the characters use their brain
power for anything of substance.
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In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.
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In Off Topic, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character
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In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
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  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

Understandable sentiment.
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there
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In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.
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It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

On the flip side you now have dozens of accounts on ig with water powered cars
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It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

On the flip side you now have dozens of accounts on ig with water powered cars


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In Off Topic, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

Like I said, understandable sentiment.

For me what's more exciting is the prospect of expanding our neural pathways
into the vast spaces of the brain where the yet inexplicably dense population
of neurons are without synapses. And of course I'm not referring the so-called
"100% use" of the brain, by area. But rather the densely packed spaces
of cell potential throughout the entire brain. Brain mass not area, iow.

Some already having fun with it, hypothesizing how in principle it could be facilitated
using the same tech. I know it may never be realized. Nevertheless, it's
fun to ponder the possible human achievements ahead, using more of our cerebral
capacity.


  
It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.
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In Off Topic, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

Hi there,

I don't often chime in, but read the forums voraciously on a daily basis.

I take exception to the blanket generalized statement of "the crookedness
of the mental health profession."

As a registered nurse working in pediatric psychiatry, I and my colleagues hold
ourselves to a high standard of care and carry an appreciation and understanding
for the lives and context of the children and families that we connect with on
a daily basis. It is an imperfect system because there are imperfect humans
involved (on both sides of the healthcare process), but it is a profession to
which I am proud to work in.

Thanks,
Cristoforus
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In Off Topic, Cristoforus writes:
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  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

Hi there,

I don't often chime in, but read the forums voraciously on a daily basis.

I take exception to the blanket generalized statement of "the crookedness
of the mental health profession."

As a registered nurse working in pediatric psychiatry, I and my colleagues hold
ourselves to a high standard of care and carry an appreciation and understanding
for the lives and context of the children and families that we connect with on
a daily basis. It is an imperfect system because there are imperfect humans
involved (on both sides of the healthcare process), but it is a profession to
which I am proud to work in.

As you well should be. It's an honorable profession, one which my daughter
is a part of.

I admit that my reply did not take into account that portion of Saitobricks.ca's
post. Which to be completely clear, I do not concur with nor fully understand.
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  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
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  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

Hi there,

I don't often chime in, but read the forums voraciously on a daily basis.

I take exception to the blanket generalized statement of "the crookedness
of the mental health profession."

As a registered nurse working in pediatric psychiatry, I and my colleagues hold
ourselves to a high standard of care and carry an appreciation and understanding
for the lives and context of the children and families that we connect with on
a daily basis. It is an imperfect system because there are imperfect humans
involved (on both sides of the healthcare process), but it is a profession to
which I am proud to work in.

As you well should be. It's an honorable profession, one which my daughter
is a part of.

I admit that my reply did not take into account that portion of Saitobricks.ca's
post. Which to be completely clear, I do not concur with nor fully understand.

Well, if it helps to clear things up, it’s their tendency to diagnose someone
as mentally ill when, it is more deep than that.
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  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

Hi there,

I don't often chime in, but read the forums voraciously on a daily basis.

I take exception to the blanket generalized statement of "the crookedness
of the mental health profession."

As a registered nurse working in pediatric psychiatry, I and my colleagues hold
ourselves to a high standard of care and carry an appreciation and understanding
for the lives and context of the children and families that we connect with on
a daily basis. It is an imperfect system because there are imperfect humans
involved (on both sides of the healthcare process), but it is a profession to
which I am proud to work in.

As you well should be. It's an honorable profession, one which my daughter
is a part of.

I admit that my reply did not take into account that portion of Saitobricks.ca's
post. Which to be completely clear, I do not concur with nor fully understand.

Well, if it helps to clear things up, it’s their tendency to diagnose someone
as mentally ill when, it is more deep than that.

I see. Anecdotal conclusion?
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In Off Topic, Cristoforus writes:
  In Off Topic, Saitobricks.ca writes:
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  In Off Topic, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

I can see that being used for brainwashing in the future.

Very good point. Thought about that too. But after pondering the article, decided
to focus instead on the better angels of our character

I hope this is used for good, but with all the evil people in the world I’d rather
not control my dreams(not worth the potential loss.)

And btw, not that it would assuage your concerns much, but just to be fair: the
article spoke of it's use as a "guide" to aide an individual in controlling
their own dreams in search of so-called 'lost' memories, basically suppressed
memories. Actually very exciting potential in this application of AI, when/if
we ever get there

In search of lost memories? Why is my big question, is all this really necessary?

If we're beginning there, with that question, you'll need to first do
some work yourself in understanding the significance of accessing suppressed
memories, especially to the mental health profession. Which is just a starting
point for such a consequential technology, should it be realized.

You raised a disturbing possibility given it's potency in the wrong
hands, understandable. But now imagine that same potency in other hands making
ours lives better, advancing humanity. Powerful tools are not to be feared if
human nature is fully understood, imho.

Take care now

I like your positivity towards the idea, and I would be excited too, but with
the state of leadership and the crookedness of the mental health profession I
can’t see this going too far in the right direction. I really wish it could
just be used for good but it unfortunately won’t be.😔

It’s just like the guy back in the 80’s who figured out how to make a vehicle
go 1000 miles on 1 gallon of diesel, what happened to him? He mysteriously died,
and his idea was censored.

Hi there,

I don't often chime in, but read the forums voraciously on a daily basis.

I take exception to the blanket generalized statement of "the crookedness
of the mental health profession."

As a registered nurse working in pediatric psychiatry, I and my colleagues hold
ourselves to a high standard of care and carry an appreciation and understanding
for the lives and context of the children and families that we connect with on
a daily basis. It is an imperfect system because there are imperfect humans
involved (on both sides of the healthcare process), but it is a profession to
which I am proud to work in.

Thanks,
Cristoforus

As someone who would see lots of people on a daily basis, what are your methods
of diagnosis, and treatment? Also what happens to be the most common issue?
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In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

For me, what's more exciting is the prospect of expanding our neural pathways
into the vast spaces of the brain where the yet inexplicably dense population
of neurons are without synapses. And of course I'm not referring the so-called
"100% use" of the brain, by area. But rather the densely packed spaces
of cell potential throughout the entire brain.

Brain mass not area, iow.
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In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  In Off Topic, popsicle writes:
  Just read an article declaring the very real possibility of AI chatbots being
able to guide us in controlling our lucid dreams, foremost in order to explore
lost memories. Can you imagine the potential in that, I hardly can. Not just
the for the obvious therapeutic benefits, but the possibility of accessing more
of the remaining 86% (on average) of the human brain never before utilized.

The potential of building neural networks into that vast region of virgin space,
considering that the utmost complex entity known, still is the human brain. Imagine
then the possibilities of using more of it.

Though don't know just how close that achievement practically is, they're
somewhat vague with that info. But just the idea of it seriously being explored...

Going to pull a later incoming order, before exploring that lucid dream control

~Goodnight

For me, what's more exciting is the prospect of expanding our neural pathways
into the vast spaces of the brain where the yet inexplicably dense population
of neurons are without synapses. And of course I'm not referring the so-called
"100% use" of the brain, by area. But rather the densely packed spaces
of cell potential throughout the entire brain.

Brain mass not area, iow.

Take in some of this
https://youtu.be/7txwLUVk_JI